From: Trond Myklebust <trondmy@hammerspace.com>
To: "bcodding@redhat.com" <bcodding@redhat.com>,
"anna.schumaker@netapp.com" <anna.schumaker@netapp.com>
Cc: "linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: client skips revalidation if holding a delegation
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2019 12:56:54 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c133a2ed862bf5714210aa5a44190ddaecfa188f.camel@hammerspace.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6C2EF3B8-568A-41F0-B134-52996457DD7D@redhat.com>
On Tue, 2019-06-04 at 08:41 -0400, Benjamin Coddington wrote:
> Hey linux-nfs, and especially maintainers,
>
> I'm still interested in working on a problem raised a couple weeks
> ago, but
> confusion muddled that discussion and it died:
>
> If the client holds a read delegation, it will skip revalidation of a
> dentry
> in lookup. If the file was moved on the server, the client can end
> up with
> two positive dentries in cache for the same inode, and the dentry
> that
> doesn't exist on the server will never time out of the cache.
>
> The client can detect this happening because the directory of the
> dentry
> that should be revalidated updates it's change attribute. Skipping
> revalidation is an optimization in the case we hold a delegation, but
> this
> optimization should only be used when the delegation was obtained via
> a
> lookup of the dentry we are currently revalidating.
>
> Keeping the optimization might be done by tying the delegation to the
> dentry. Lacking some (easy?) way to do that currently, it seems
> simpler to
> remove the optimization altogether, and I will send a patch to remove
> it.
A delegation normally applies to the entire inode. It covers _all_
dentries that point to that inode too because create, rename and unlink
are always atomically accompanied by an inode change attribute.
IOW: The proposed restriction is both unnecessary and incorrect.
> Any thoughts on this? Any response, even asserting that this is not
> something
> we will fix are welcome.
--
Trond Myklebust
Linux NFS client maintainer, Hammerspace
trond.myklebust@hammerspace.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-06-04 12:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-06-04 12:41 client skips revalidation if holding a delegation Benjamin Coddington
2019-06-04 12:56 ` Trond Myklebust [this message]
2019-06-04 14:10 ` Benjamin Coddington
2019-06-04 14:53 ` Trond Myklebust
2019-06-04 19:00 ` Benjamin Coddington
2019-06-10 14:14 ` Benjamin Coddington
2019-06-10 16:43 ` Trond Myklebust
2019-06-11 17:01 ` Benjamin Coddington
2019-06-10 17:08 ` Olga Kornievskaia
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