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From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Kees Cook' <keescook@chromium.org>, Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
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Subject: RE: [PATCH v2] creds: Convert cred.usage to refcount_t
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2023 10:18:13 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d2bb7f4a8b214e1f8d50176e6d94b118@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <202308181317.66E6C9A5@keescook>

From: Kees Cook
> Sent: Friday, August 18, 2023 9:25 PM
> 
> On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 04:10:49PM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > [...]
> > extra checks (supposedly) compile down to nothing. It should be possible
> > to build alternate refcount_t handling functions that are just wrappers
> > around atomic_t with no extra checks, for folks who want to really run
> > "fast and loose".
> 
> No -- there's no benefit for this. We already did all this work years
> ago with the fast vs full break-down. All that got tossed out since it
> didn't matter. We did all the performance benchmarking and there was no
> meaningful difference -- refcount _is_ atomic with an added check that
> is branch-predicted away.

Hmmm IIRC recent Intel x86 cpu never do static branch prediction.
So you can't avoid mis-predicted branches in cold code.

	David

> Peter Zijlstra and Will Deacon spent a lot of
> time making it run smoothly. :)
> 
> -Kees
> 
> --
> Kees Cook

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-08-21 10:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-18  4:17 [PATCH v2] creds: Convert cred.usage to refcount_t Kees Cook
2023-08-18 17:55 ` Andrew Morton
2023-08-18 18:17   ` Jann Horn
2023-08-18 18:48     ` Kees Cook
2023-08-18 19:31       ` Andrew Morton
2023-08-18 20:10         ` Jeff Layton
2023-08-18 20:24           ` Kees Cook
2023-08-18 21:07             ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-08-21 10:18             ` David Laight [this message]
2023-08-18 20:16         ` Kees Cook
2023-08-18 20:54         ` Jann Horn
2023-08-18 18:46   ` Kees Cook
2023-08-18 20:21     ` David Windsor
2023-08-18 20:12 ` Jeff Layton

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