From: Trond Myklebust <trondmy@hammerspace.com>
To: "bfields@fieldses.org" <bfields@fieldses.org>
Cc: "linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
"bfields@redhat.com" <bfields@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Handling NFSv3 I/O errors in knfsd
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2019 21:02:31 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ef9f2791ef395d7c968a386ce0a32ea503d6478f.camel@hammerspace.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190826205156.GA27834@fieldses.org>
On Mon, 2019-08-26 at 16:51 -0400, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 12:50:18PM -0400, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> > Recently, a number of changes went into the kernel to try to ensure
> > that I/O errors (specifically write errors) are reported to the
> > application once and only once. The vehicle for ensuring the errors
> > are reported is the struct file, which uses the 'f_wb_err' field to
> > track which errors have been reported.
> >
> > The problem is that errors are mainly intended to be reported
> > through
> > fsync(). If the client is doing synchronous writes, then all is
> > well,
> > but if it is doing unstable writes, then the errors may not be
> > reported until the client calls COMMIT. If the file cache has
> > thrown out the struct file, due to memory pressure, or just because
> > the client took a long while between the last WRITE and the COMMIT,
> > then the error report may be lost, and the client may just think
> > its data is safely stored.
>
> These were lost before the file caching patches as well, right? Or
> is
> there some regression?
Correct. This is not a regression, but an attempt to fix a problem that
has existed for some time now.
>
> > Note that the problem is compounded by the fact that NFSv3 is
> > stateless,
> > so the server never knows that the client may have rebooted, so
> > there
> > can be no guarantee that a COMMIT will ever be sent.
> >
> > The following patch set attempts to remedy the situation using 2
> > strategies:
> >
> > 1) If the inode is dirty, then avoid garbage collecting the file
> > from the file cache.
> > 2) If the file is closed, and we see that it would have reported
> > an error to COMMIT, then we bump the boot verifier in order to
> > ensure the client retransmits all its writes.
>
> Sounds sensible to me.
>
> > Note that if multiple clients were writing to the same file, then
> > we probably want to bump the boot verifier anyway, since only one
> > COMMIT will see the error report (because the cached file is also
> > shared).
>
> I'm confused by the "probably should". So that's future work? I
> guess
> it'd mean some additional work to identify that case. You can't
> really
> even distinguish clients in the NFSv3 case, but I suppose you could
> use
> IP address or TCP connection as an approximation.
I'm suggesting we should do this too, but I haven't done so yet in
these patches. I'd like to hear other opinions (particularly from you,
Chuck and Jeff).
> --b.
>
> > So in order to implement the above strategy, we first have to do
> > the following: split up the file cache to act per net namespace,
> > since the boot verifier is per net namespace. Then add a helper
> > to update the boot verifier.
> >
> > Trond Myklebust (3):
> > nfsd: nfsd_file cache entries should be per net namespace
> > nfsd: Support the server resetting the boot verifier
> > nfsd: Don't garbage collect files that might contain write errors
> >
> > fs/nfsd/export.c | 2 +-
> > fs/nfsd/filecache.c | 76 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
> > ------
> > fs/nfsd/filecache.h | 3 +-
> > fs/nfsd/netns.h | 4 +++
> > fs/nfsd/nfs3xdr.c | 13 +++++---
> > fs/nfsd/nfs4proc.c | 14 +++------
> > fs/nfsd/nfsctl.c | 1 +
> > fs/nfsd/nfssvc.c | 32 ++++++++++++++++++-
> > 8 files changed, 115 insertions(+), 30 deletions(-)
> >
> > --
> > 2.21.0
--
Trond Myklebust
Linux NFS client maintainer, Hammerspace
trond.myklebust@hammerspace.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-08-26 21:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-08-26 16:50 [PATCH 0/3] Handling NFSv3 I/O errors in knfsd Trond Myklebust
2019-08-26 16:50 ` [PATCH 1/3] nfsd: nfsd_file cache entries should be per net namespace Trond Myklebust
2019-08-26 16:50 ` [PATCH 2/3] nfsd: Support the server resetting the boot verifier Trond Myklebust
2019-08-26 16:50 ` [PATCH 3/3] nfsd: Don't garbage collect files that might contain write errors Trond Myklebust
2019-08-27 7:58 ` [PATCH 2/3] nfsd: Support the server resetting the boot verifier kbuild test robot
2019-08-26 20:51 ` [PATCH 0/3] Handling NFSv3 I/O errors in knfsd J. Bruce Fields
2019-08-26 21:02 ` Trond Myklebust [this message]
2019-08-27 0:48 ` bfields
2019-08-27 0:56 ` Trond Myklebust
2019-08-27 1:13 ` bfields
2019-08-27 1:28 ` Trond Myklebust
2019-08-27 13:59 ` Chuck Lever
2019-08-27 14:53 ` Trond Myklebust
2019-08-27 14:58 ` bfields
2019-08-27 14:59 ` bfields
2019-08-27 15:15 ` Trond Myklebust
2019-08-27 15:20 ` Chuck Lever
2019-08-28 13:48 ` bfields
2019-08-28 13:51 ` Jeff Layton
2019-08-28 13:57 ` Chuck Lever
2019-08-28 14:00 ` J. Bruce Fields
2019-08-28 14:03 ` Chuck Lever
2019-08-28 14:16 ` Jeff Layton
2019-08-28 14:21 ` Chuck Lever
2019-08-28 14:40 ` J. Bruce Fields
2019-08-28 14:48 ` Bruce Fields
2019-08-28 14:50 ` Chuck Lever
2019-08-28 17:07 ` Bruce Fields
2019-08-28 15:09 ` Jeff Layton
2019-08-28 15:12 ` Rick Macklem
2019-08-28 15:37 ` Trond Myklebust
2019-08-28 15:46 ` Bruce Fields
2019-08-27 14:54 ` Bruce Fields
2019-08-27 14:59 ` Trond Myklebust
2019-08-27 15:00 ` bfields
2019-08-27 15:17 ` Jeff Layton
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