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From: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>
To: Olga Kornievskaia <aglo@citi.umich.edu>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	Jim Rees <rees@umich.edu>,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.6.30-rc deadline scheduler performance regression for iozone  over NFS
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 15:06:55 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <x49vdo4u8j4.fsf@segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b4ff356f0905131116o48181ccu4786578cc72c8ceb-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> (Olga Kornievskaia's message of "Wed, 13 May 2009 14:16:42 -0400")

Olga Kornievskaia <aglo@citi.umich.edu> writes:

> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Andrew Morton
> <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>> On Wed, 13 May 2009 12:20:57 -0400 Olga Kornievskaia <aglo-vtMw8L3fJ9vF11Dp+j+f1g@public.gmane.org=
h.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> I believe what you are seeing is how well TCP autotuning performs.
>>> What old NFS code was doing is disabling autotuning and instead usi=
ng
>>> #nfsd thread to scale TCP recv window. You are providing an example=
 of
>>> where setting TCP buffer sizes outperforms TCP autotuning. While th=
is
>>> is a valid example, there is also an alternative example of where o=
ld
>>> NFS design hurts performance.
>>
>> <scratches head>
>>
>> Jeff's computer got slower. =C2=A0Can we fix that?
>
> We realize that decrease performance is a problem and understand that
> reverting the patch might be the appropriate course of action!

I wasn't suggesting that we just revert the patch.  I was just looking
for some guidance on diagnosing and hopefully fixing the regression.

> But we are curious why this is happening. Jeff if it's not too much t=
rouble
> could you generate tcpdumps for both cases. We are curious what are
> the max window sizes in both cases? Also could you give us your tcp a=
nd
> network sysctl values for the testing environment (both client and se=
rver
> values) that you can get with "sysctl -a | grep tcp" and also
> " | grep net.core".

http://people.redhat.com/jmoyer/iozone-regression.tar

I'm happy to continue to help track this down.  If you want to reproduc=
e
this in your own environment, though, you can probably do it with a
ramdisk served up via nfs with the nfs client and server on the same
gig-e network.

> Poor performance using TCP autotuning can be demonstrated outside
> of NFS but using Iperf. It can be shown that iperf will work better i=
f "-w"
> flag is used. When this flag is set, Iperf calls setsockopt() call wh=
ich in
> the kernel turns off autotuning.
>
> As for fixing this it would be great if we could get some help from t=
he
> TCP kernel folks?

Then we'll need to add netdev to the CC, but probably from a message
that has more background on the problem (we've even trimmed the
offending commit and performance numbers from the email at this point).

Cheers,
Jeff

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-05-13 19:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <x49hc0f79k9.fsf@segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com>
     [not found] ` <20090508120119.8c93cfd7.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
     [not found]   ` <20090511081415.GL4694@kernel.dk>
     [not found]     ` <x49skjb21b7.fsf@segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com>
     [not found]       ` <20090511165826.GG4694@kernel.dk>
     [not found]         ` <x494ovp4r51.fsf@segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com>
2009-05-13  3:44           ` 2.6.30-rc deadline scheduler performance regression for iozone over NFS Andrew Morton
2009-05-13 14:58             ` Jeff Moyer
     [not found]               ` <x49y6t1rqw0.fsf-RRHT56Q3PSP4kTEheFKJxxDDeQx5vsVwAInAS/Ez/D0@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-13 16:20                 ` Olga Kornievskaia
     [not found]                   ` <b4ff356f0905130920v184ab529mb52a4346d4c77c14-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-13 16:32                     ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-13 18:16                       ` Olga Kornievskaia
     [not found]                         ` <b4ff356f0905131116o48181ccu4786578cc72c8ceb-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-13 19:06                           ` Jeff Moyer [this message]
2009-05-13 18:25                       ` Jim Rees
2009-05-13 19:45                         ` Trond Myklebust
2009-05-13 19:29               ` Jeff Moyer
2009-05-13 23:45                 ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                   ` <1242258338.5407.244.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-14 13:34                     ` Jeff Moyer
     [not found]                       ` <x49octv7qr8.fsf-RRHT56Q3PSP4kTEheFKJxxDDeQx5vsVwAInAS/Ez/D0@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-14 14:33                         ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                           ` <1242311620.6560.14.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-14 14:38                             ` Jeff Moyer
2009-05-14 15:00                             ` Jeff Moyer
     [not found]                               ` <x49ws8j686r.fsf-RRHT56Q3PSP4kTEheFKJxxDDeQx5vsVwAInAS/Ez/D0@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-17 19:10                                 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-05-17 19:12                                   ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                                     ` <1242587524.17796.3.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-18 14:15                                       ` Jeff Moyer
2009-05-22 23:45                                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-05-14 17:55                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-05-14 18:26                     ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                       ` <1242325569.6560.27.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-15 21:37                         ` J. Bruce Fields

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