From: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>
To: Olga Kornievskaia <aglo@citi.umich.edu>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
Jim Rees <rees@umich.edu>,
linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.6.30-rc deadline scheduler performance regression for iozone over NFS
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 15:06:55 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <x49vdo4u8j4.fsf@segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b4ff356f0905131116o48181ccu4786578cc72c8ceb-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> (Olga Kornievskaia's message of "Wed, 13 May 2009 14:16:42 -0400")
Olga Kornievskaia <aglo@citi.umich.edu> writes:
> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Andrew Morton
> <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>> On Wed, 13 May 2009 12:20:57 -0400 Olga Kornievskaia <aglo-vtMw8L3fJ9vF11Dp+j+f1g@public.gmane.org=
h.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> I believe what you are seeing is how well TCP autotuning performs.
>>> What old NFS code was doing is disabling autotuning and instead usi=
ng
>>> #nfsd thread to scale TCP recv window. You are providing an example=
of
>>> where setting TCP buffer sizes outperforms TCP autotuning. While th=
is
>>> is a valid example, there is also an alternative example of where o=
ld
>>> NFS design hurts performance.
>>
>> <scratches head>
>>
>> Jeff's computer got slower. =C2=A0Can we fix that?
>
> We realize that decrease performance is a problem and understand that
> reverting the patch might be the appropriate course of action!
I wasn't suggesting that we just revert the patch. I was just looking
for some guidance on diagnosing and hopefully fixing the regression.
> But we are curious why this is happening. Jeff if it's not too much t=
rouble
> could you generate tcpdumps for both cases. We are curious what are
> the max window sizes in both cases? Also could you give us your tcp a=
nd
> network sysctl values for the testing environment (both client and se=
rver
> values) that you can get with "sysctl -a | grep tcp" and also
> " | grep net.core".
http://people.redhat.com/jmoyer/iozone-regression.tar
I'm happy to continue to help track this down. If you want to reproduc=
e
this in your own environment, though, you can probably do it with a
ramdisk served up via nfs with the nfs client and server on the same
gig-e network.
> Poor performance using TCP autotuning can be demonstrated outside
> of NFS but using Iperf. It can be shown that iperf will work better i=
f "-w"
> flag is used. When this flag is set, Iperf calls setsockopt() call wh=
ich in
> the kernel turns off autotuning.
>
> As for fixing this it would be great if we could get some help from t=
he
> TCP kernel folks?
Then we'll need to add netdev to the CC, but probably from a message
that has more background on the problem (we've even trimmed the
offending commit and performance numbers from the email at this point).
Cheers,
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-05-13 19:08 UTC|newest]
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[not found] ` <20090508120119.8c93cfd7.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
[not found] ` <20090511081415.GL4694@kernel.dk>
[not found] ` <x49skjb21b7.fsf@segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com>
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[not found] ` <x494ovp4r51.fsf@segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com>
2009-05-13 3:44 ` 2.6.30-rc deadline scheduler performance regression for iozone over NFS Andrew Morton
2009-05-13 14:58 ` Jeff Moyer
[not found] ` <x49y6t1rqw0.fsf-RRHT56Q3PSP4kTEheFKJxxDDeQx5vsVwAInAS/Ez/D0@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-13 16:20 ` Olga Kornievskaia
[not found] ` <b4ff356f0905130920v184ab529mb52a4346d4c77c14-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-13 16:32 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-13 18:16 ` Olga Kornievskaia
[not found] ` <b4ff356f0905131116o48181ccu4786578cc72c8ceb-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-13 19:06 ` Jeff Moyer [this message]
2009-05-13 18:25 ` Jim Rees
2009-05-13 19:45 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-05-13 19:29 ` Jeff Moyer
2009-05-13 23:45 ` Trond Myklebust
[not found] ` <1242258338.5407.244.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-14 13:34 ` Jeff Moyer
[not found] ` <x49octv7qr8.fsf-RRHT56Q3PSP4kTEheFKJxxDDeQx5vsVwAInAS/Ez/D0@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-14 14:33 ` Trond Myklebust
[not found] ` <1242311620.6560.14.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-14 14:38 ` Jeff Moyer
2009-05-14 15:00 ` Jeff Moyer
[not found] ` <x49ws8j686r.fsf-RRHT56Q3PSP4kTEheFKJxxDDeQx5vsVwAInAS/Ez/D0@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-17 19:10 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-05-17 19:12 ` Trond Myklebust
[not found] ` <1242587524.17796.3.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-18 14:15 ` Jeff Moyer
2009-05-22 23:45 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-05-14 17:55 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-05-14 18:26 ` Trond Myklebust
[not found] ` <1242325569.6560.27.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-15 21:37 ` J. Bruce Fields
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