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From: Ryusuke Konishi <ryusuke-sG5X7nlA6pw@public.gmane.org>
To: chris.mason-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org
Cc: users-JrjvKiOkagjYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org,
	konishi.ryusuke-Zyj7fXuS5i5L9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Some nilfs comments
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:57:22 +0900 (JST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081224.005722.41484092.ryusuke@osrg.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1229996820.4812.7.camel-cGoWVVl3WGUrkklhUoBCrlaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>

Hi,

On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:47:00 -0500, Chris Mason wrote:
> > - struct the_nilfs:
> >   NILFS allows users to mount snapshots without making additional
> >   devices or volumes.  This is achieved by sharing a block device
> >   among multiple mount instances (i.e. super_block structs).
> >   the_nilfs struct is used for this sharing.
> > 
> >   This approach seems to be peculiar to nilfs, and I feel it needs
> >   attention.
> 
> Btrfs also shares super blocks between snapshot mounts, and each
> snapshot becomes a private inode number space.
> 
> So, it sounds like we have some things in common there.  I'm looking at
> using more explicit mounts than I am now (with some hints from
> Christoph). I'll take a look at the nilfs code in this area and see how
> similar we really are.

Yeah, it sounds nice.
So, I may not have to care this so much.
Comprehending common points between the two may be indeed meaningful
when we rethink mount/umount vfs interface.

> > 
> > - ioctl:
> >   Ioctl interface (routines and structures) were implemented in an
> >   own way.  These seems to be checked whether to comply with the rules
> >   of ioctl design.
> 
> Ok, I'll take a look here as well.  The same goes for btrfs ;)

All right ;)

> > > It looks like nilfs_writepage ignores WB_SYNC_NONE, which is used by
> > > do_sync_mapping_range().
> > 
> > Thanks!  I didn't notice that this function was added.
> > Uum, it seems to require reconsidering the way to initiate writing of
> > data pages.
> 
> Nick Piggin has been making noise to change do_sync_mapping_range to
> pass WB_SYNC_ALL instead.  You can trick it a bit while things get
> worked out and use current_is_pdflush() to only treat WB_SYNC_NONE as
> WB_SYNC_NONE when pdflush is the one calling (sorry, its an ugly
> suggestion).

Thanks. I've found the Nick's patch in mmotm.

In either case, nilfs_writepages (or nilfs_writepage) needs some more
changes to ensure data integrity writeout against
sys_sync_file_range() because writeback flag on data pages is not set
in nilfs_writepages() and wait_on_page_writeback_range() will ignore
the pages.

For other write operations, the write sync is ensured in a file level
operation like the journal data mode of ext3/ext4.
But I think nilfs_writepages() should be revised to initiate writeback
in the function if possible.

Regards,
Ryusuke

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-12-23 15:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-18  2:52 Some nilfs comments Chris Mason
     [not found] ` <1229568775.27170.134.camel-cGoWVVl3WGUrkklhUoBCrlaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-22  9:07   ` Ryusuke Konishi
     [not found]     ` <20081222.180719.88488712.ryusuke-sG5X7nlA6pw@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-22 13:01       ` Reinoud Zandijk
     [not found]         ` <20081222130152.GA23725-5cYspOl2ggRz6xQTk39kMVfVdRo2wo/d@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-23 17:23           ` Ryusuke Konishi
     [not found]             ` <20081224.022337.30445207.ryusuke-sG5X7nlA6pw@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-23 20:49               ` Chris Mason
2008-12-23  1:47       ` Chris Mason
     [not found]         ` <1229996820.4812.7.camel-cGoWVVl3WGUrkklhUoBCrlaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-23 15:57           ` Ryusuke Konishi [this message]
2009-01-06 19:55       ` Chris Mason
     [not found]         ` <1231271709.4888.27.camel-cGoWVVl3WGUrkklhUoBCrlaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-07  5:20           ` Ryusuke Konishi
     [not found]             ` <20090107.142009.106620982.ryusuke-sG5X7nlA6pw@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-07 14:16               ` Chris Mason

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