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From: Ryusuke Konishi <ryusuke-sG5X7nlA6pw@public.gmane.org>
To: yongkun-b/Nwfc8pyCekRP3n4FtbsiGn5s73+xxf@public.gmane.org
Cc: linux-nilfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Writes doubled by NILFS2
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 20:45:23 +0900 (JST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100420.204523.76757028.ryusuke@osrg.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <00c901cae064$f42b4bb0$dc81e310$@iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp>

Hi,
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 17:39:13 +0900, "Yongkun Wang" <yongkun-b/Nwfc8pyCekRP3n4FtbsiGn5s73+xxf@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Hey, guys,
> 
> We have a database system, the data is stored on the disk formatted with
> NILFS2 (nilfs-2.0.15, kmod-nilfs-2.0.5-1.2.6.18_92.1.22.el5.x86_64).
> 
> I have run a trace at the system call level and the block IO level, that is,
> tracing the requests before processed by NILFS2 and after processed by
> NILFS2.
> 
> We use synchronous IO. So the amount of writes at the two trace points
> should be equal. 
> It is true when we use EXT2 file system.
> 
> However, for NILFS2, we found that the writes have been doubled, that is,
> the amount of writes is doubled after processed by NILFS2. The amount of
> writes at the system call level is equal between EXT2 and NILFS2. 

Interesting results.  What kind of synchronous write did you use in
the measurement ?  fsync? or O_SYNC writes ?
 
> Since all the address are log-structured, it is hard to know what are the
> additional writes.
>
> Can you provide some hints on the additional writes? Is it caused by some
> special functions such as snapshot?

You can look into the logs with dumpseg(8) command:

 # dumpseg <segment number>

This shows summary of blocks written in the specified segment. lssu(1)
command would be of help for finding a log head.


In the dump log, files with inode number 3,4,5,6 are metadata.  The
log format is depicted in the page 10 of the following slides:

  http://www.nilfs.org/papers/jls2009-nilfs.pdf


In general, copy-on-write filesystems including lfs are said to incur
overheads by metadata writes especially for synchronous writes.

I guess small-sized fsyncs or O_SYNC writes are causing the overhead.

Thanks,
Ryusuke
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-20 11:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-13 23:38 Response to a Write Error Ed F.
     [not found] ` <t2kf2d3ba1f1004131638nb61e68cek1ecb43a86c316d35-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-14 16:51   ` Ryusuke Konishi
     [not found]     ` <20100415.015106.58888665.ryusuke-sG5X7nlA6pw@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-15  0:46       ` Ed F.
     [not found]         ` <j2kf2d3ba1f1004141746n9f914465q3e24d48bec7f990e-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-16 12:31           ` Ryusuke Konishi
     [not found]             ` <20100416.213151.77349735.ryusuke-sG5X7nlA6pw@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-20  8:39               ` Writes doubled by NILFS2 Yongkun Wang
2010-04-20 11:45                 ` Ryusuke Konishi [this message]
     [not found]                   ` <20100420.204523.76757028.ryusuke-sG5X7nlA6pw@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-21 14:41                     ` Yongkun Wang
2010-04-21 16:59                       ` Ryusuke Konishi
     [not found]                         ` <20100422.015907.119858125.ryusuke-sG5X7nlA6pw@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-22 13:54                           ` Yongkun Wang
2010-04-23 15:59                             ` Ryusuke Konishi
     [not found]                               ` <20100424.005941.176067504.ryusuke-sG5X7nlA6pw@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-25 14:10                                 ` Yongkun Wang
2010-04-25 16:12                                   ` Ryusuke Konishi

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