From: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Chandan Babu R <chandan.babu@oracle.com>,
Hongbo Li <lihongbo22@huawei.com>,
Ryusuke Konishi <konishi.ryusuke@gmail.com>,
linux-nilfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] xfs: report the correct read/write dio alignment for reflinked inodes
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2025 23:03:55 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250107070355.GH6174@frogsfrogsfrogs> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250107061012.GA13898@lst.de>
On Tue, Jan 07, 2025 at 07:10:12AM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 06, 2025 at 06:37:06PM +0000, John Garry wrote:
> >> + /*
> >> + * On COW inodes we are forced to always rewrite an entire file system
> >> + * block or RT extent.
> >> + *
> >> + * Because applications assume they can do sector sized direct writes
> >> + * on XFS we fall back to buffered I/O for sub-block direct I/O in that
> >> + * case. Because that needs to copy the entire block into the buffer
> >> + * cache it is highly inefficient and can easily lead to page cache
> >> + * invalidation races.
> >> + *
> >> + * Tell applications to avoid this case by reporting the natively
> >> + * supported direct I/O read alignment.
> >
> > Maybe I mis-read the complete comment, but did you really mean "natively
> > supported direct I/O write alignment"? You have been talking about writes
> > only, but then finally mention read alignment.
>
> No, this is indeed intended to talk about the different (smaller) read
> alignment we are now reporting. But I guess the wording is confusing
> enough that I should improve it?
How about:
/*
* For COW inodes, we can only perform out of place writes of entire
* file allocation units (clusters). For a sub-cluster directio write,
* we must fall back to buffered I/O to perform the RMW. At best this
* is highly inefficient; at worst it leads to page cache invalidation
* races. Tell applications to avoid this by reporting separately the
* read and (larger) write alignments.
*/
--D
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-01-07 7:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-01-06 15:15 add STATX_DIO_READ_ALIGN Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-06 15:15 ` [PATCH 1/4] fs: reformat the statx definition Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-06 16:28 ` Jan Kara
2025-01-06 15:15 ` [PATCH 2/4] fs: add STATX_DIO_READ_ALIGN Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-06 16:32 ` Jan Kara
2025-01-06 16:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-06 15:15 ` [PATCH 3/4] xfs: cleanup xfs_vn_getattr Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-06 17:07 ` John Garry
2025-01-06 15:15 ` [PATCH 4/4] xfs: report the correct read/write dio alignment for reflinked inodes Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-06 17:33 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-01-06 18:37 ` John Garry
2025-01-07 6:10 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-07 7:03 ` Darrick J. Wong [this message]
2025-01-07 9:00 ` John Garry
2025-01-06 15:19 ` [PATCH] statx.2: document STATX_DIO_READ_ALIGN Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-06 17:40 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-01-06 18:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-06 19:09 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-01-06 22:01 ` Alejandro Colomar
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