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From: Gordan Bobic <gordan-UpbECiGlrmGsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
To: linux-nilfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Odd problem starting nilfs_cleanerd due to an eMMC misbehaviour
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 16:29:39 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F22D0F3.5070103@bobich.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120127161921.GL750-Ng8wz+J301SNY5Lh21HnMTHS2PGA244I9dF7HbQ/qKg@public.gmane.org>

Christian Smith wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 05:52:03PM +0400, Paul Fertser wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm using nilfs2 for the root filesystem on an ARM-based netbook
>> (Toshiba ac100) with Debian hardfloat. Custom kernel is based on 3.0.8
>> and nilfs-tools is 2.1.0-1 from the Debian repository.
>>
>> I wanted to try the threaded i/o test from the Phoronix test suite and
>> somehow it happened that during the test the garbage collecting daemon
>> failed and never came back. So i got the filesystem 100% full and
>> after i noticed it i tried running the daemon manually. It didn't
>> start even after reboot. Suprisingly, the eMMC error went away on its
>> own after fully powering off the whole device, and after that the
>> daemon started to work properly.
>>
>> I'm not sure what conclusion might be made from this but i'd still
>> appreciate any comments, especially the suggestions on what to do if
>> the error didn't "recover".
> 
> Remember, SDCards contain their own embedded controller to do the
> block mapping between LBA and FLASH blocks. There may even be an ARM
> based controller in the SDCard. Under the stress of a benchmark, the
> firmware probably just got itself in a bit of a state and needed a
> hard reset to recover.
> 
> What brand of SD Card is it? Most SD Cards are designed for low
> stress low speed IO in devices such as cameras. Perhaps try a
> different brand.

I believe Paul was referring to the internal eMMC (not an SD card) on 
the Toshiba AC100. Not something that is easily replaceable. :(

I should also point out that having benchmarked many SD cards, I have 
yet to find any that offer decent performance on random-writes, no 
matter how good they may be at linear writes - hence the interest in nilfs2.

Gordan
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-01-27 16:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-26 13:52 Odd problem starting nilfs_cleanerd due to an eMMC misbehaviour Paul Fertser
     [not found] ` <20120126135203.GM2267-0MSThuzptbI@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-27 16:19   ` Christian Smith
     [not found]     ` <20120127161921.GL750-Ng8wz+J301SNY5Lh21HnMTHS2PGA244I9dF7HbQ/qKg@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-27 16:29       ` Gordan Bobic [this message]
2012-01-28 12:53   ` Martin Steigerwald
     [not found]     ` <201201281353.00537.Martin-3kZCPVa5dk2azgQtNeiOUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-01  6:06       ` Paul Fertser
2013-01-10 13:16   ` New experience with the odd " Paul Fertser
     [not found]     ` <20130110131659.GA29689-0MSThuzptbI@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-10 13:34       ` Vyacheslav Dubeyko
2013-01-10 13:49         ` Paul Fertser
     [not found]           ` <20130110134907.GB29689-0MSThuzptbI@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-10 14:00             ` Vyacheslav Dubeyko
2013-01-10 14:12               ` Paul Fertser
2013-06-30  7:44         ` Paul Fertser
     [not found]           ` <20130630074404.GI22224-0MSThuzptbI@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-30  7:56             ` Paul Fertser
     [not found]               ` <20130630075626.GJ22224-0MSThuzptbI@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-30 11:49                 ` Vyacheslav Dubeyko

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