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From: Andreas Rohner <andreas.rohner-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
To: Vyacheslav Dubeyko <slava-yeENwD64cLxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-nilfs <linux-nilfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/5] nilfs-utils: cldconfig add an option to set minimal free blocks
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 19:31:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52E16010.3050305@gmx.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <B1FCAEBD-EB58-4A06-BD6B-7D4FB533D9F1-yeENwD64cLxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>

On 2014-01-23 18:49, Vyacheslav Dubeyko wrote:
> 
> On Jan 21, 2014, at 4:59 PM, Andreas Rohner wrote:
> 
>> With this option the user can specify the minimal number of free/dead
>> blocks before a segment can be cleaned.
> 
> "Free or dead" or "free and dead"? What do you mean by free blocks?
> "Free blocks" sounds for me as blocks that I can allocate and to use
> immediately without any operations. If you mean invalid blocks (blocks
> that it was updated in this segment) then I need to do garbage collection
> operation for making it free. So, free blocks are really confusing term. And
> "dead blocks" sounds for me not very good.

I mean updated or deleted blocks, that need to be garbage collected.
Here [1] they are called "dead blocks".

>> This is a threshold for the GC
>> to prevent needless moving of data. If there are less free blocks
>> to gain from cleaning a segment than the specified number, the GC will
>> abort and try again with a different segment.
>>
>> By setting it to 0 this feature is effectively disabled.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Andreas Rohner <andreas.rohner-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
>> ---
>> include/nilfs_cleaner.h           | 19 ++++++++++---------
>> sbin/cleanerd/cldconfig.c         | 40 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> sbin/cleanerd/cldconfig.h         |  4 ++++
>> sbin/cleanerd/cleanerd.c          | 23 ++++++++++++++++++++++
>> sbin/cleanerd/nilfs_cleanerd.conf |  9 +++++++++
>> sbin/nilfs-clean/nilfs-clean.c    | 18 ++++++++++++++----
>> 6 files changed, 100 insertions(+), 13 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/include/nilfs_cleaner.h b/include/nilfs_cleaner.h
>> index 0bf02aa..42c4aa7 100644
>> --- a/include/nilfs_cleaner.h
>> +++ b/include/nilfs_cleaner.h
>> @@ -46,17 +46,18 @@ struct nilfs_cleaner_args {
>> 	uint64_t start_segnum;	/* start segment number */
>> 	uint64_t nsegs;		/* number of segments */
>> 	uint32_t runtime; /* runtime in seconds */
>> -	uint32_t pad2;
>> +	uint32_t min_free_blocks_threshold;
>> };
>> /* valid flags */
>> -#define NILFS_CLEANER_ARG_PROTECTION_PERIOD	(1 << 0)
>> -#define NILFS_CLEANER_ARG_NSEGMENTS_PER_CLEAN	(1 << 1)
>> -#define NILFS_CLEANER_ARG_CLEANING_INTERVAL	(1 << 2)
>> -#define NILFS_CLEANER_ARG_USAGE_RATE_THRESHOLD	(1 << 3) /* reserved */
>> -#define NILFS_CLEANER_ARG_START_SEGNUM		(1 << 4) /* reserved */
>> -#define NILFS_CLEANER_ARG_NSEGS			(1 << 5) /* reserved */
>> -#define NILFS_CLEANER_ARG_NPASSES		(1 << 6) /* reserved */
>> -#define NILFS_CLEANER_ARG_RUNTIME		(1 << 7) /* reserved */
>> +#define NILFS_CLEANER_ARG_PROTECTION_PERIOD		(1 << 0)
>> +#define NILFS_CLEANER_ARG_NSEGMENTS_PER_CLEAN		(1 << 1)
>> +#define NILFS_CLEANER_ARG_CLEANING_INTERVAL		(1 << 2)
>> +#define NILFS_CLEANER_ARG_USAGE_RATE_THRESHOLD		(1 << 3) /* reserved */
>> +#define NILFS_CLEANER_ARG_START_SEGNUM			(1 << 4) /* reserved */
>> +#define NILFS_CLEANER_ARG_NSEGS				(1 << 5) /* reserved */
>> +#define NILFS_CLEANER_ARG_NPASSES			(1 << 6) /* reserved */
>> +#define NILFS_CLEANER_ARG_RUNTIME			(1 << 7) /* reserved */
>> +#define NILFS_CLEANER_ARG_MIN_FREE_BLOCKS_THRESHOLD	(1 << 8)
> 
> What about NILFS_CLEANER_ARG_MIN_FBLK_THRESHOLD?
> But free blocks really confuse me.

Yes maybe the name is a bit confusing.

>> #define NILFS_CLDCONFIG_SELECTION_POLICY_IMPORTANCE	\
>> @@ -120,6 +122,8 @@ struct nilfs_cldconfig {
>> #define NILFS_CLDCONFIG_RETRY_INTERVAL			60
>> #define NILFS_CLDCONFIG_USE_MMAP			1
>> #define NILFS_CLDCONFIG_LOG_PRIORITY			LOG_INFO
>> +#define NILFS_CLDCONFIG_MIN_FREE_BLOCKS_THRESHOLD	256
>> +#define NILFS_CLDCONFIG_MC_MIN_FREE_BLOCKS_THRESHOLD	128
> 
> Why 256 or 128? What is good? What is bad?
> I am a user. How can I define what value is appropriate?
> How should I think for choosing some value?
> For example, I want to have the fastest performance as possible. How can I define
> an appropriate value? Or, maybe, I want to clean as many segments as possible.
> How should I think?
> 
> Or, maybe, I want combination of GC policies. 

It is the minimal number of dead or free or invalid or however you want
to call them blocks, before a segment is allowed to be cleaned by the
GC. It is a tradeoff, but you are right it is not very intuitive. As I
stated before I am going to change that in the next version.

br,
Andreas Rohner

[1] http://lwn.net/Articles/522507/
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-01-23 18:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-21 13:59 [PATCH v2 0/5] nilfs-utils: skip inefficient gc operations Andreas Rohner
     [not found] ` <cover.1390310509.git.andreas.rohner-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-21 13:59   ` [PATCH v2 1/5] nilfs-utils: cldconfig add an option to set minimal free blocks Andreas Rohner
     [not found]     ` <22b5b3ac403052d3044dc8c1bebe323191376c03.1390310509.git.andreas.rohner-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-21 14:10       ` dexen deVries
2014-01-21 14:38         ` Andreas Rohner
2014-01-21 14:53       ` Andreas Rohner
2014-01-23 17:49       ` Vyacheslav Dubeyko
     [not found]         ` <B1FCAEBD-EB58-4A06-BD6B-7D4FB533D9F1-yeENwD64cLxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-23 18:31           ` Andreas Rohner [this message]
2014-01-21 13:59   ` [PATCH v2 2/5] nilfs-utils: cleanerd: add custom error value to enable fast retry Andreas Rohner
     [not found]     ` <e9d3dd17318a994fe7e2c100368212e0b4029e13.1390310509.git.andreas.rohner-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-23 17:49       ` Vyacheslav Dubeyko
     [not found]         ` <FE7FB751-68F4-48C3-A97A-782F4F6E69FE-yeENwD64cLxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-23 19:08           ` Andreas Rohner
2014-01-21 13:59   ` [PATCH v2 3/5] nilfs-utils: refactoring of nilfs_reclaim_segment to add minblocks param Andreas Rohner
     [not found]     ` <36ef66ee15b3de8ca00815a6baa7bf6b62ca57d4.1390310509.git.andreas.rohner-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-24 18:04       ` Ryusuke Konishi
2014-01-21 13:59   ` [PATCH v2 4/5] nilfs-utils: add support for NILFS_IOCTL_SET_SUINFO ioctl Andreas Rohner
     [not found]     ` <72f8c37258d08ba9793b0c1bb0374dd8efcd4756.1390310509.git.andreas.rohner-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-23 17:49       ` Vyacheslav Dubeyko
     [not found]         ` <62FA32DB-83AC-4570-BD73-618C169390FE-yeENwD64cLxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-23 19:17           ` Andreas Rohner
     [not found]             ` <52E16AE4.4000303-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-25 16:16               ` Vyacheslav Dubeyko
2014-01-24 18:26       ` Ryusuke Konishi
     [not found]         ` <20140125.032633.184837411.konishi.ryusuke-Zyj7fXuS5i5L9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-24 20:00           ` Andreas Rohner
     [not found]             ` <52E2C643.3070704-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-25 18:52               ` Ryusuke Konishi
2014-01-26 10:00               ` Ryusuke Konishi
     [not found]                 ` <20140126.190004.443429632.konishi.ryusuke-Zyj7fXuS5i5L9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-26 11:24                   ` Andreas Rohner
2014-01-21 13:59   ` [PATCH v2 5/5] nilfs-utils: man: add description of min_free_blocks_threshold Andreas Rohner
2014-01-21 14:00   ` [PATCH v2 1/3] nilfs2: add new nilfs_suinfo_update struct Andreas Rohner
     [not found]     ` <cec6a449ddf5ae9da2928cdddfb96ebcb2789eee.1390312777.git.andreas.rohner-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-21 14:00       ` [PATCH v2 2/3] nilfs2: add nilfs_sufile_set_suinfo to update segment usage info Andreas Rohner
     [not found]         ` <2fd48b2d524a59a02bdad13c0c194de3e5b55cc7.1390312777.git.andreas.rohner-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-24 11:56           ` Ryusuke Konishi
     [not found]             ` <20140124.205623.400541300.konishi.ryusuke-Zyj7fXuS5i5L9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-24 12:34               ` Andreas Rohner
     [not found]                 ` <52E25DDC.2060502-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-24 16:34                   ` Ryusuke Konishi
2014-01-21 14:00       ` [PATCH v2 3/3] nilfs2: implementation of NILFS_IOCTL_SET_SUINFO ioctl Andreas Rohner
     [not found]         ` <6fb5a6d45afca9ae2599c471c0e42805ed1b6c55.1390312777.git.andreas.rohner-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-24 13:20           ` Ryusuke Konishi
     [not found]             ` <20140124.222016.110509397.konishi.ryusuke-Zyj7fXuS5i5L9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-24 13:44               ` Andreas Rohner
     [not found]                 ` <52E26E46.3030702-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-24 15:23                   ` Ryusuke Konishi
2014-01-24  4:56       ` [PATCH v2 1/3] nilfs2: add new nilfs_suinfo_update struct Ryusuke Konishi
     [not found]         ` <20140124.135635.27780504.konishi.ryusuke-Zyj7fXuS5i5L9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-24 12:11           ` Andreas Rohner
     [not found]             ` <52E25883.3010307-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-24 12:37               ` Ryusuke Konishi
2014-01-22 23:46   ` [PATCH v2 0/5] nilfs-utils: skip inefficient gc operations Michael L. Semon
     [not found]     ` <52E05863.90604-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-23 10:25       ` Andreas Rohner
     [not found]         ` <52E0EE08.3040703-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-23 20:57           ` Michael L. Semon
2014-01-23 17:48   ` Vyacheslav Dubeyko
     [not found]     ` <85EBEC6B-CA69-472A-8DDD-8E056F809EC4-yeENwD64cLxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-23 18:12       ` Andreas Rohner
     [not found]         ` <52E15B9E.6040307-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-24  8:02           ` Vyacheslav Dubeyko
     [not found]             ` <FC7F25C5-1E72-4DF5-B860-FBCE36E91EAB-yeENwD64cLxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-24 14:18               ` Andreas Rohner
     [not found]                 ` <52E27651.6070207-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-25 16:33                   ` Vyacheslav Dubeyko
     [not found]                     ` <82ACC3FC-BE83-483F-99D8-D13F4D02C58F-yeENwD64cLxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-26  6:57                       ` Ryusuke Konishi
     [not found]                         ` <20140126.155740.56352351.konishi.ryusuke-Zyj7fXuS5i5L9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-26 10:36                           ` Andreas Rohner

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