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From: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
To: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 08/92] fs: new helper: simple_rename_timestamp
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2023 20:48:48 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d73e7de5056a34578a193185770e46584450d8b7.camel@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230830001917.GC461907@ZenIV>

On Wed, 2023-08-30 at 01:19 +0100, Al Viro wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 05, 2023 at 02:58:11PM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> 
> > + * POSIX mandates that the old and new parent directories have their ctime and
> > + * mtime updated, and that inodes of @old_dentry and @new_dentry (if any), have
> > + * their ctime updated.
> 
> APPLICATION USAGE
> Some implementations mark for update the last file status change timestamp
> of renamed files and some do not. Applications which make use of the
> last file status change timestamp may behave differently with respect
> to renamed files unless they are designed to allow for either behavior.
>
> So for children POSIX permits rather than mandates.  Doesn't really matter;
> Linux behaviour had been to touch ctime on children since way back, if
> not since the very beginning.

Mea culpa. You're quite correct. I'll plan to roll a small patch to
update the comment over this function.

Thanks!
-- 
Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>


  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-30  0:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20230705185812.579118-1-jlayton@kernel.org>
     [not found] ` <20230705185812.579118-1-jlayton-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2023-07-05 18:58   ` [PATCH v2 07/92] fs: add ctime accessors infrastructure Jeff Layton
2023-07-05 18:58   ` [PATCH v2 08/92] fs: new helper: simple_rename_timestamp Jeff Layton
2023-07-05 18:58   ` [PATCH v2 92/92] fs: rename i_ctime field to __i_ctime Jeff Layton
2023-07-05 21:57   ` [PATCH v2 00/89] fs: new accessors for inode->i_ctime Jeff Layton
     [not found] ` <20230705185812.579118-2-jlayton@kernel.org>
     [not found]   ` <20230705185812.579118-2-jlayton-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2023-07-05 23:12     ` [PATCH v2 07/92] fs: add ctime accessors infrastructure Damien Le Moal
     [not found] ` <20230705185812.579118-4-jlayton@kernel.org>
     [not found]   ` <20230705185812.579118-4-jlayton-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2023-07-05 23:19     ` [PATCH v2 92/92] fs: rename i_ctime field to __i_ctime Damien Le Moal
2023-07-06 14:58   ` Jan Kara
     [not found] ` <a4e6cfec345487fc9ac8ab814a817c79a61b123a.camel@kernel.org>
     [not found]   ` <a4e6cfec345487fc9ac8ab814a817c79a61b123a.camel-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2023-07-06 15:16     ` [PATCH v2 00/89] fs: new accessors for inode->i_ctime Eric W. Biederman
2023-07-06 16:14       ` Jeff Layton
2023-07-07 12:42 ` Jeff Layton
2023-07-10 12:35   ` Christian Brauner
2023-07-10 13:32     ` Jeff Layton
2023-07-10 12:18 ` [PATCH v2 00/92] " Christian Brauner
     [not found] ` <20230705185812.579118-3-jlayton@kernel.org>
     [not found]   ` <20230705185812.579118-3-jlayton-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2023-07-05 23:19     ` [PATCH v2 08/92] fs: new helper: simple_rename_timestamp Damien Le Moal
2023-07-06 10:27     ` Jan Kara
     [not found]   ` <3b403ef1-22e6-0220-6c9c-435e3444b4d3@kernel.org>
     [not found]     ` <3b403ef1-22e6-0220-6c9c-435e3444b4d3-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2023-07-06  0:04       ` Jeff Layton
     [not found]     ` <7c783969641b67d6ffdfb10e509f382d083c5291.camel@kernel.org>
2023-07-06 21:02       ` [apparmor] " Seth Arnold
2023-07-07 10:50         ` Jeff Layton
2023-08-30  0:19   ` Al Viro
2023-08-30  0:48     ` Jeff Layton [this message]
2023-09-04 18:11 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH v2 00/89] fs: new accessors for inode->i_ctime patchwork-bot+f2fs

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