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From: "Verma, Vishal L" <vishal.l.verma-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: "Williams,
	Dan J" <dan.j.williams-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"darrick.wong-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org"
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	"Vyacheslav.Dubeyko-Sjgp3cTcYWE@public.gmane.org"
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Subject: Re: [Lsf-pc] [LSF/MM TOPIC] Badblocks checking/representation in filesystems
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 21:56:58 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1484776549.4358.33.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPcyv4hd7bpCa7d9msX0Y8gLz7WsqXT3VExQwwLuAcsmMxVTPg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On Wed, 2017-01-18 at 13:32 -0800, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Darrick J. Wong
> <darrick.wong@oracle.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 03:39:17PM -0500, Jeff Moyer wrote:
> > > Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> writes:
> > > 
> > > > On Tue 17-01-17 15:14:21, Vishal Verma wrote:
> > > > > Your note on the online repair does raise another tangentially
> > > > > related
> > > > > topic. Currently, if there are badblocks, writes via the bio
> > > > > submission
> > > > > path will clear the error (if the hardware is able to remap
> > > > > the bad
> > > > > locations). However, if the filesystem is mounted eith DAX,
> > > > > even
> > > > > non-mmap operations - read() and write() will go through the
> > > > > dax paths
> > > > > (dax_do_io()). We haven't found a good/agreeable way to
> > > > > perform
> > > > > error-clearing in this case. So currently, if a dax mounted
> > > > > filesystem
> > > > > has badblocks, the only way to clear those badblocks is to
> > > > > mount it
> > > > > without DAX, and overwrite/zero the bad locations. This is a
> > > > > pretty
> > > > > terrible user experience, and I'm hoping this can be solved in
> > > > > a better
> > > > > way.
> > > > 
> > > > Please remind me, what is the problem with DAX code doing
> > > > necessary work to
> > > > clear the error when it gets EIO from memcpy on write?
> > > 
> > > You won't get an MCE for a store;  only loads generate them.
> > > 
> > > Won't fallocate FL_ZERO_RANGE clear bad blocks when mounted with
> > > -o dax?
> > 
> > Not necessarily; XFS usually implements this by punching out the
> > range
> > and then reallocating it as unwritten blocks.
> > 
> 
> That does clear the error because the unwritten blocks are zeroed and
> errors cleared when they become allocated again.

Yes, the problem was that writes won't clear errors. zeroing through
either hole-punch, truncate, unlinking the file should all work
(assuming the hole-punch or truncate ranges wholly contain the
'badblock' sector).


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-01-18 21:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <at1mp6pou4lenesjdgh22k4p.1484345585589@email.android.com>
     [not found] ` <b9rbflutjt10mb4ofherta8j.1484345610771@email.android.com>
2017-01-14  0:00   ` [LSF/MM TOPIC] Badblocks checking/representation in filesystems Slava Dubeyko
2017-01-14  0:49     ` Vishal Verma
2017-01-16  2:27       ` Slava Dubeyko
2017-01-17 14:37         ` [Lsf-pc] " Jan Kara
2017-01-17 15:08           ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-17 22:14           ` Vishal Verma
2017-01-18 10:16             ` Jan Kara
2017-01-18 20:39               ` Jeff Moyer
2017-01-18 21:02                 ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-01-18 21:32                   ` Dan Williams
     [not found]                     ` <CAPcyv4hd7bpCa7d9msX0Y8gLz7WsqXT3VExQwwLuAcsmMxVTPg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-18 21:56                       ` Verma, Vishal L [this message]
     [not found]                         ` <1484776549.4358.33.camel-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-19  8:10                           ` Jan Kara
     [not found]                             ` <20170119081011.GA2565-4I4JzKEfoa/jFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-19 18:59                               ` Vishal Verma
     [not found]                                 ` <20170119185910.GF4880-PxNA6LsHknajYZd8rzuJLNh3ngVCH38I@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-19 19:03                                   ` Dan Williams
     [not found]                                     ` <CAPcyv4jZz_iqLutd0gPEL3udqbFxvBH8CZY5oDgUjG5dGbC2gg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-20  9:03                                       ` Jan Kara
2017-01-17 23:15           ` Slava Dubeyko
2017-01-18 20:47             ` Jeff Moyer
2017-01-19  2:56               ` Slava Dubeyko
2017-01-19 19:33                 ` Jeff Moyer
2017-01-17  6:33       ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-01-17 21:35         ` Vishal Verma
2017-01-17 22:15           ` Andiry Xu
2017-01-17 22:37             ` Vishal Verma
2017-01-17 23:20               ` Andiry Xu
2017-01-17 23:51                 ` Vishal Verma
2017-01-18  1:58                   ` Andiry Xu
     [not found]                     ` <CAOvWMLZCt39EDg-1uppVVUeRG40JvOo9sKLY2XMuynZdnc0W9w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-20  0:32                       ` Verma, Vishal L
2017-01-18  9:38               ` [Lsf-pc] " Jan Kara
2017-01-19 21:17                 ` Vishal Verma
2017-01-20  9:47                   ` Jan Kara
2017-01-20 15:42                     ` Dan Williams
2017-01-24  7:46                       ` Jan Kara
2017-01-24 19:59                         ` Vishal Verma
2017-01-18  0:16             ` Andreas Dilger
2017-01-18  2:01               ` Andiry Xu
2017-01-18  3:08                 ` Lu Zhang
2017-01-20  0:46                   ` Vishal Verma
2017-01-20  9:24                     ` Yasunori Goto
     [not found]                       ` <20170120182435.0E12.E1E9C6FF-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-21  0:23                         ` Kani, Toshimitsu
2017-01-20  0:55                 ` Verma, Vishal L

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