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From: Colin Walters <walters@verbum.org>
To: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] fs, xfs: introduce S_IOMAP_IMMUTABLE
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 22:15:12 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1501553712.1055225.1059044352.109C04CB@webmail.messagingengine.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170731182352.GE4477@magnolia>

On Mon, Jul 31, 2017, at 02:23 PM, Darrick J. Wong wrote:

> I don't think F_SEAL_{SHRINK,GROW} prevents reflinking or CoW of file data,
> which are two things that cannot happen under S_IOMAP_IMMUTABLE that
> aren't size changes.  From the implementation it looks like shrink and
> grow are only supposed to disallow changes to i_size, not i_blocks (or
> the file block map).

True. 

> Then again, I suppose F_SEAL_* only work on shmem, so maybe it simply
> isn't defined for any other filesystem...?  e.g. it doesn't prohibit
> reflink, but the only fs implementing seals doesn't support reflink.
> 
> <shrug>
> 
> Seals cannot be removed, which is too strict for the S_IOMAP_IMMUTABLE
> user cases being presented.

To be clear, the set of use cases is swap files and DAX, right?  Or is there anything else?
I can't imagine why anyone would want to turn a swap file back into a regular file.
I haven't fully followed DAX, but I'd take your word for it if people want to
be able to remove the flag after.

Anyways, I think your broader point is right; the use cases are different enough
that it doesn't make sense to try to add S_CONTENT_IMMUTABLE (or however 
one decides to call it) at the same time.
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  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-01  2:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-29 19:43 [PATCH 0/3] fs, xfs: block map immutable files for dax, dma-to-storage, and swap Dan Williams
2017-07-29 19:43 ` [PATCH 1/3] fs, xfs: introduce S_IOMAP_IMMUTABLE Dan Williams
2017-07-31 16:02   ` Colin Walters
2017-07-31 16:29     ` Dan Williams
2017-07-31 16:32       ` Colin Walters
2017-07-31 17:42         ` Colin Walters
2017-07-31 18:23           ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-08-01  2:15             ` Colin Walters [this message]
2017-08-01  2:42               ` Dave Chinner
2017-08-05  9:45                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-07-31 16:46   ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-07-31 17:32     ` Dan Williams
2017-07-29 19:43 ` [PATCH 2/3] fs, xfs: introduce FALLOC_FL_SEAL_BLOCK_MAP Dan Williams
2017-07-31 17:09   ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-07-31 18:25     ` Dan Williams
2017-08-01  0:30       ` Dave Chinner
2017-07-29 19:43 ` [PATCH 3/3] xfs: persist S_IOMAP_IMMUTABLE in di_flags2 Dan Williams
2017-07-31 17:15   ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-08-01  0:42   ` Dave Chinner

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