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From: "Kani, Toshi" <toshi.kani@hpe.com>
To: "darrick.wong@oracle.com" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
Cc: "linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"david@fromorbit.com" <david@fromorbit.com>,
	"linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org" <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>
Subject: Re: DAX 2MB mappings for XFS
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 00:05:22 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1515804676.16384.64.camel@hpe.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180112235255.GB5597@magnolia>

On Fri, 2018-01-12 at 15:52 -0800, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:15:00PM +0000, Kani, Toshi wrote:
 :
> > > > ext4 creates multiple smaller extents for the same request.
> > > 
> > > Yes, because it has much, much smaller block groups so "allocation >
> > > max extent size (128MB)" is a common path.
> > > 
> > > It's not a common path on XFS - filesystems (and hence AGs) are
> > > typically orders of magnitude larger than the maximum extent size
> > > (8GB) so the problem only shows up when we're near ENOSPC. XFS is
> > > really not optimised for tiny filesystems, and when it comes to pmem
> > > we were lead to beleive we'd have mutliple terabytes of pmem in
> > > systems by now, not still be stuck with 8GB NVDIMMS. Hence we've
> > > spent very little time worrying about such issues because we
> > > weren't aiming to support such small capcities for very long...
> > 
> > I see.  Yes, there will be multiple terabytes capacity, but it will also
> > allow to divide it into multiple smaller namespaces.  So, user may
> > continue to have relatively smaller namespaces for their use cases.  If
> > user allocates a namespace that is just big enough to host several
> > active files, it may hit this issue regardless of their size.
> 
> I am curious, why not just give XFS all the space and let it manage the space?

Well, I am not sure if having multiple namespaces would be popular use
cases.  But it could be useful when a system hosts multiple guests or
containers that require isolation in storage space.

Thanks,
-Toshi
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      reply	other threads:[~2018-01-13  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-12 19:40 DAX 2MB mappings for XFS Kani, Toshi
2018-01-12 21:19 ` Dave Chinner
2018-01-12 21:38   ` Kani, Toshi
2018-01-12 22:27     ` Dave Chinner
2018-01-12 23:15       ` Kani, Toshi
2018-01-12 23:52         ` Darrick J. Wong
2018-01-13  0:05           ` Kani, Toshi [this message]

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