From: Boaz Harrosh <boaz@plexistor.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org,
Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>,
Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
Matthew Wilcox <matthew.r.wilcox@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] PMEM driver for v4.1
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 16:36:32 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <552BC660.4000202@plexistor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150413123535.GA2666@gmail.com>
On 04/13/2015 03:35 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
<>
>
> How does splice work with DAX files? AFAICS vmsplice() won't work, as
> it uses get_user_pages(), which needs struct page backing. Also, how
> will f_op->sendpage() work? That too needs page backing.
>
I'm not sure about f_op->sendpage(). I do not see it in ext4 so I assumed
it works through f_op->splice_read/write.
The way f_op->splice_XX works is through the read/write_iter system
and this one is fully supported with DAX. It will do an extra copy.
[You can see this patch in linux-next:
8b22559 dax: unify ext2/4_{dax,}_file_operations
that explains a bit about this issue
]
>>> - zero copy O_DIRECT into DAX areas.
>>
>> DAX is always O_DIRECT.
>>
>> What does not work is mmap of DAX file and use that pointer in an
>> O_DIRECT operation of another device. (unless it is a DAX device)
>
> That is what I meant: O_DIRECT into (or from) DAX mmap()-ed areas,
> from a different device.
>
Yes. For me the one missing the most is RDMA to/from pmem copy-less.
Is why I'm pushing for my page-struct patches. But so far people
rejected it. I hope to resend it soon, once the dust settles and see
if people might change their mind.
> I'm not promoting the use of these APIs, some of them are quirky, just
> wanted to list the known limitations. The pmem driver is already
> useful as-is.
>
> Thanks,
> Ingo
>
Thanks
Boaz
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-04-13 13:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-04-13 9:33 [GIT PULL] PMEM driver for v4.1 Ingo Molnar
2015-04-13 9:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-04-13 10:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-13 11:11 ` [Linux-nvdimm] " Yigal Korman
2015-04-13 17:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-04-14 6:41 ` Boaz Harrosh
2015-04-13 12:21 ` Boaz Harrosh
2015-04-13 12:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-13 13:36 ` Boaz Harrosh [this message]
2015-04-13 17:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-04-13 17:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-04-14 12:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-14 13:45 ` Boaz Harrosh
2015-04-14 14:08 ` [Linux-nvdimm] " Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2015-04-14 16:34 ` Dan Williams
2015-04-14 21:46 ` Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2015-04-15 8:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-14 16:04 ` Dan Williams
2015-04-15 8:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-16 4:31 ` Dan Williams
2015-04-17 6:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-04-18 15:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-25 18:16 ` [Linux-nvdimm] " Matthew Wilcox
2015-05-25 18:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-26 8:41 ` Boaz Harrosh
2015-05-26 19:31 ` Matthew Wilcox
2015-05-27 8:10 ` Boaz Harrosh
2015-05-27 8:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-05-27 8:26 ` Boaz Harrosh
2015-05-27 7:50 ` Ingo Molnar
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