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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Kanchan Joshi <joshiiitr@gmail.com>
Cc: Kanchan Joshi <joshi.k@samsung.com>,
	hch@lst.de, kbusch@kernel.org, sagi@grimberg.me,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, gost.dev@samsung.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Unprivileged sgl-only passthrough
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 13:12:27 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0ada1f4f-df57-4be2-8295-696b8cdb720d@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+1E3rJks2GVqNJ_YrUv4g78oNTHc9zkHc7-myPLOGp1U2mJJA@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/18/23 1:06 PM, Kanchan Joshi wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 19, 2023 at 12:10?AM Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk> wrote:
>>
>> On 10/18/23 12:30 PM, Kanchan Joshi wrote:
>>> Patch 1: Prep. Adds the meta-transfer ability in nvme-pci
>>> Patch 2: Enables fine-granular passthrough with the change that i/o
>>> commands can transfer the data only via SGL.
>>>
>>> Requirement:
>>> - Prepared against block 6.6 tree.
>>> - The patch in uring-passthrough failure handling is required to see the
>>>   submission failure (if any)
>>>   https://lore.kernel.org/linux-nvme/20231018135718.28820-1-joshi.k@samsung.com/
>>
>> I didn't have time to follow the previous discussion, but what's the
>> reasoning behind allowing it for SGL only?
> 
> This was a solution that emerged while discussing how best to fill the
> DMA corruption hole for passthrough.
> With SGL, the buffer length (data/buffer) sanity checks are done by
> the SSD and it fails the IO rather than doing extra transfer.

Yay hardware...

>> IIRC, we do have an inline
>> vec for a small number of vecs, so presumably this would not hit
>> alloc+free for each IO?
> 
> 16b dma_pool_alloc/free for each IO that involves metadata. This is to
> keep the nvme-sgl that points to the metadata buffer.
> Hopefully some ideas can emerge (during the review) to see if we can
> do away with it.

OK, so at least nothing if meta data isn't being used. I know of at
least one use case for meta data and passthrough, so would be nice to at
least have an eye on making that situation better.

>> But even so, I would imagine that SGL is slower
>> than PRP? Do we know how much?
> 
> I do not know at the moment. Plan is to evaluate this soon.
> 
> BTW, SGL-only mode is for unprivileged users only. For root, it
> remains the same as before (prp or sgl depending on the data-transfer
> length).

That's nice at least.

Thanks for the clarifications.

-- 
Jens Axboe



  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-18 19:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CGME20231018183620epcas5p26ab74bdd1f2739ef3ec1ee2431329dc4@epcas5p2.samsung.com>
2023-10-18 18:30 ` [PATCH 0/2] Unprivileged sgl-only passthrough Kanchan Joshi
2023-10-18 18:30   ` [PATCH 1/2] nvme-pci: meta-transfer via sgl Kanchan Joshi
2023-10-19  5:48     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-10-19  9:54       ` Kanchan Joshi
2023-10-20  4:40         ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-10-18 18:30   ` [PATCH 2/2] nvme: fine-granular CAP_SYS_ADMIN for nvme io/admin commands Kanchan Joshi
2023-10-19  5:49     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-10-19  9:59       ` Kanchan Joshi
2023-10-18 18:40   ` [PATCH 0/2] Unprivileged sgl-only passthrough Jens Axboe
2023-10-18 19:06     ` Kanchan Joshi
2023-10-18 19:12       ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2023-10-18 19:35     ` Keith Busch
2023-10-18 19:37       ` Jens Axboe
2023-10-18 19:44       ` Kanchan Joshi
2023-10-18 19:47         ` Jens Axboe
2023-10-18 19:59       ` Kanchan Joshi
2023-10-18 21:06         ` Keith Busch
2023-10-18 21:08           ` Jens Axboe

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