From: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
To: Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Keith Busch <keith.busch@wdc.com>,
Omar Sandoval <osandov@fb.com>,
linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] nvmeof-tcp/001: simple test for nvmeof-tcp connection
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2021 07:56:57 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0d3e494e-aba0-0c70-4b1f-91887820ff86@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2679a2d0-7786-026d-c00c-8fc02a78c7a9@grimberg.me>
On 11/14/21 3:45 PM, Sagi Grimberg wrote:
>
>
> On 11/14/21 3:50 PM, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
>> On 11/14/21 11:31 AM, Sagi Grimberg wrote:
>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
>>>> ---
>>>> tests/nvmeof-tcp/001 | 55 +++++++
>>>> tests/nvmeof-tcp/001.out | 6 +
>>>> tests/nvmeof-tcp/rc | 347
>>>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>
>>> Why another directory? why nvmeof-tcp? what prevents inband-auth
>>> to be tested with loop/rdma?
>>>
>> Technically, nothing.
>> But as I'll be looking into tcp in-band _encryption_ as the next step
>> I found it logical to have a disinct directory.
>
> It is unclear to me why the separate directory is needed. But at least
> call it something else if you must have it.
>
>> Especially as I still fail to see the actual use-case for using
>> in-band authentication _without_ encryption.
>
> Not sure what you mean. For the same use-case that iscsi chap exists
> for. The secrets are pre-shared.
>
And that's the use case I don't really get; the authentication is done
only once during connection establishment, and then completely ignored
for the remainder of the session.
> Perhaps you can explain? My understanding is that the extension for
> nvme-tcp TLS based auth is to avoid maintaining two sets of pre-shared
> keys, i.e just maintain the TLS ones and not the dhchap ones. But maybe
> I am missing something.
>
Yes, and no.
Technically TLS is independent from authentication, and as such you can
'just' use encryption.
But if you want to have both there is the so-called secure
concatenation, which allows you to use the negotiated shared key from
authentication as PSK for TLS.
And that's where I think the real value lies for authentication; you
precisely do _not_ have to maintain two sets of keys.
>> We could rename it to nvmeof-auth, though.
>
> or just add it as more tests under nvme (or create a subdirectory).
>
Sure we can. I just found it easier to create my own directory,
especially seeing that the nvme subdir has the largest number of tests
already.
But if you prefer I can move it under the 'nvme' directory.
Cheers,
Hannes
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-11-15 6:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-11-12 14:45 [PATCH blktests 0/6] Testsuite for nvme in-band authentication Hannes Reinecke
2021-11-12 14:45 ` [PATCH 1/6] nvmeof-tcp/001: simple test for nvmeof-tcp connection Hannes Reinecke
2021-11-14 10:31 ` Sagi Grimberg
2021-11-14 13:50 ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-11-14 14:45 ` Sagi Grimberg
2021-11-15 2:34 ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2021-11-15 6:56 ` Hannes Reinecke [this message]
2021-11-15 8:12 ` Sagi Grimberg
2021-11-15 8:37 ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-11-12 14:45 ` [PATCH 2/6] nvmeof-tcp/002: create an authenticated " Hannes Reinecke
2021-11-12 14:45 ` [PATCH 3/6] nvmeof-tcp/003: test different key types Hannes Reinecke
2021-11-12 14:45 ` [PATCH 4/6] nvmeof-tcp/004: test hash and dhgroup variations Hannes Reinecke
2021-11-12 14:45 ` [PATCH 5/6] nvmeof-tcp/005: test bi-directional authentication Hannes Reinecke
2021-11-17 21:50 ` Sagi Grimberg
2021-11-18 9:40 ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-11-19 11:29 ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-11-12 14:45 ` [PATCH 6/6] nvmeof-tcp/006: test re-authentication Hannes Reinecke
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