From: mlin@kernel.org (Ming Lin)
Subject: [RFC PATCH 0/2] virtio nvme
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2015 11:12:37 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1442599957.11660.8.camel@ssi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1442537752.11959.35.camel@haakon3.risingtidesystems.com>
On Thu, 2015-09-17@17:55 -0700, Nicholas A. Bellinger wrote:
> On Thu, 2015-09-17@16:31 -0700, Ming Lin wrote:
> > On Wed, 2015-09-16@23:10 -0700, Nicholas A. Bellinger wrote:
> > > Hi Ming & Co,
> > >
> > > On Thu, 2015-09-10@10:28 -0700, Ming Lin wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2015-09-10@15:38 +0100, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2015@6:48 AM, Ming Lin <mlin@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > > > > These 2 patches added virtio-nvme to kernel and qemu,
> > > > > > basically modified from virtio-blk and nvme code.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As title said, request for your comments.
> > >
> > > <SNIP>
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > At first glance it seems like the virtio_nvme guest driver is just
> > > > > another block driver like virtio_blk, so I'm not clear why a
> > > > > virtio-nvme device makes sense.
> > > >
> > > > I think the future "LIO NVMe target" only speaks NVMe protocol.
> > > >
> > > > Nick(CCed), could you correct me if I'm wrong?
> > > >
> > > > For SCSI stack, we have:
> > > > virtio-scsi(guest)
> > > > tcm_vhost(or vhost_scsi, host)
> > > > LIO-scsi-target
> > > >
> > > > For NVMe stack, we'll have similar components:
> > > > virtio-nvme(guest)
> > > > vhost_nvme(host)
> > > > LIO-NVMe-target
> > > >
> > >
> > > I think it's more interesting to consider a 'vhost style' driver that
> > > can be used with unmodified nvme host OS drivers.
> > >
> > > Dr. Hannes (CC'ed) had done something like this for megasas a few years
> > > back using specialized QEMU emulation + eventfd based LIO fabric driver,
> > > and got it working with Linux + MSFT guests.
> > >
> > > Doing something similar for nvme would (potentially) be on par with
> > > current virtio-scsi+vhost-scsi small-block performance for scsi-mq
> > > guests, without the extra burden of a new command set specific virtio
> > > driver.
> >
> > Trying to understand it.
> > Is it like below?
> >
> > .------------------------. MMIO .---------------------------------------.
> > | Guest |--------> | Qemu |
> > | Unmodified NVMe driver |<-------- | NVMe device simulation(eventfd based) |
> > '------------------------' '---------------------------------------'
> > | ^
> > write NVMe | | notify command
> > command | | completion
> > to eventfd | | to eventfd
> > v |
> > .--------------------------------------.
> > | Host: |
> > | eventfd based LIO NVMe fabric driver |
> > '--------------------------------------'
> > |
> > | nvme_queue_rq()
> > v
> > .--------------------------------------.
> > | NVMe driver |
> > '--------------------------------------'
> > |
> > |
> > v
> > .-------------------------------------.
> > | NVMe device |
> > '-------------------------------------'
> >
>
> Correct. The LIO driver on KVM host would be handling some amount of
> NVMe host interface emulation in kernel code, and would be able to
> decode nvme Read/Write/Flush operations and translate -> submit to
> existing backend drivers.
Let me call the "eventfd based LIO NVMe fabric driver" as
"tcm_eventfd_nvme"
Currently, LIO frontend driver(iscsi, fc, vhost-scsi etc) talk to LIO
backend driver(fileio, iblock etc) with SCSI commands.
Did you mean the "tcm_eventfd_nvme" driver need to translate NVMe
commands to SCSI commands and then submit to backend driver?
But I thought the future "LIO NVMe target" can support frontend driver
talk to backend driver directly with NVMe commands without translation.
Am I wrong?
>
> As with the nvme-over-fabric case, it would be possible to do a mapping
> between backend driver queue resources for real NVMe hardware (eg:
> target_core_nvme), but since it would still be doing close to the same
> amount of software emulation for both backend driver cases, I wouldn't
> expect there to be much performance advantage over just using normal
> submit_bio().
>
> --nab
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-09-18 18:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-09-10 5:48 [RFC PATCH 0/2] virtio nvme Ming Lin
2015-09-10 5:48 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] virtio_nvme(kernel): virtual NVMe driver using virtio Ming Lin
2015-09-10 5:48 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] virtio-nvme(qemu): NVMe device " Ming Lin
2015-09-10 14:02 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] virtio nvme Keith Busch
2015-09-10 17:02 ` Ming Lin
2015-09-11 4:55 ` Ming Lin
2015-09-11 17:46 ` J Freyensee
2015-09-10 14:38 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-09-10 17:28 ` Ming Lin
2015-09-11 7:48 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-09-11 17:21 ` Ming Lin
2015-09-11 17:53 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-09-11 18:54 ` Ming Lin
2015-09-17 6:10 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2015-09-17 18:18 ` Ming Lin
2015-09-17 21:43 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2015-09-17 23:31 ` Ming Lin
2015-09-18 0:55 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2015-09-18 18:12 ` Ming Lin [this message]
2015-09-18 21:09 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2015-09-18 23:05 ` Ming Lin
2015-09-23 22:58 ` Ming Lin
2015-09-27 5:01 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2015-09-27 6:49 ` Ming Lin
2015-09-28 5:58 ` Hannes Reinecke
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