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From: loberman@redhat.com (Laurence Oberman)
Subject: nvme: allow ANA support to be independent of native multipathing
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 14:34:26 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1542396866.13202.0.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181116192802.GA30057@redhat.com>

On Fri, 2018-11-16@14:28 -0500, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 16 2018 at??5:17am -0500,
> Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Nov 16, 2018@11:06:32AM +0100, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
> > > Ok, so would you be happy with making ANA support configurable?
> > 
> > I've looked a bit over the whole situation, and what I think we
> > need
> > to do is:
> > 
> > ?a) warn if we see a ANA capable device without multipath support
> > ????so people know it is not going to work properly.
> 
> I disagree with your cynicism but v2 of this patch now emits a
> warning
> accordingly.
> 
> > ?b) deprecate the multipath module option.??It was only intended as
> > ????a migration for any pre-existing PCIe multipath user if there
> > ????were any, not to support any new functionality.??So for 4.20
> > ????put in a patch that prints a clear warning when it is used,
> > ????including a link to the nvme list, and then for 4.25 or so
> > ????remove it entirely unless something unexpected come up.
> 
> You rejected the idea of allowing fine-grained control over whether
> native NVMe multipathing is enabled or not on a per-namespace basis.
> All we have is the coarse-grained nvme_core.multipath=N knob.??Now
> you're forecasting removing even that.??Please don't do that.
> 
> > This whole drama of optional multipath use has wasted way too much
> > of everyones time already.
> 
> It has wasted _way_ too much time.
> 
> But the drama is born out of you rejecting that we need to preserve
> multipath-tools and dm-multipath's ability to work across any
> transport.??You don't need to do that work: Hannes, myself and others
> have always been willing and able -- if you'd let us.
> 
> IIRC it was at 2016's LSF in Boston where Ewan Milne and I had a
> face-to-face conversation with you in the hallway track where you
> agreed
> that ANA support would be activated if the capability was advertised
> by
> the target.??The model we discussed is that it would be comparable to
> how ALUA gets enabled during SCSI LUN discovery.
> 
> I hope you can see your way forward to be more accommodating now.
> Especially given the proposed changes are backed by NVMe standards.
> 
> Please, PLEASE take v2 of this patch.. please? ;)
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike

I am begging you take it too please 
Thanks
Laurence

  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-16 19:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2018-11-12 21:53   ` multipath-tools: add ANA support for NVMe device Mike Snitzer
2018-11-13  6:59     ` Martin Wilck
2018-11-13 16:18     ` Keith Busch
2018-11-13 18:00       ` Mike Snitzer
2018-11-14  5:38         ` Mike Snitzer
2018-11-14  7:49           ` Hannes Reinecke
2018-11-14 10:36             ` [dm-devel] " Martin Wilck
2018-11-14 17:47             ` Mike Snitzer
2018-11-14 18:51               ` Hannes Reinecke
2018-11-14 19:26                 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-11-15 17:46                 ` [PATCH] nvme: allow ANA support to be independent of native multipathing Mike Snitzer
2018-11-16  7:25                   ` Hannes Reinecke
2018-11-16 14:01                     ` Mike Snitzer
2018-11-16  9:14                   ` [PATCH] " Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-16  9:40                     ` Hannes Reinecke
2018-11-16  9:49                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-16 10:06                         ` Hannes Reinecke
2018-11-16 10:17                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-16 19:28                             ` Mike Snitzer
2018-11-16 19:34                               ` Laurence Oberman [this message]
2018-11-19  9:39                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-19 14:56                                 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-11-20  9:42                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-20 13:37                                     ` Mike Snitzer
2018-11-20 16:23                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-16 14:12                     ` Mike Snitzer
2018-11-16 18:59                   ` [PATCH v2] " Mike Snitzer
2018-11-14  7:24       ` multipath-tools: add ANA support for NVMe device Hannes Reinecke
2018-11-14 15:35         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-14 16:16           ` Mike Snitzer

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