From: hch@lst.de (Christoph Hellwig)
Subject: [PATCH 0/3] Provide more fine grained control over multipathing
Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 18:33:11 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180531163311.GA30954@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180530220206.GA7037@redhat.com>
On Wed, May 30, 2018@06:02:06PM -0400, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> Because once nvme_core.multipath=N is set: native NVMe multipath is then
> not accessible from the same host. The goal of this patchset is to give
> users choice. But not limit them to _only_ using dm-multipath if they
> just have some legacy needs.
Choise by itself really isn't an argument. We need a really good
use case for all the complexity, and so far none has been presented.
> Tough to be convincing with hypotheticals but I could imagine a very
> obvious usecase for native NVMe multipathing be PCI-based embedded NVMe
> "fabrics" (especially if/when the numa-based path selector lands). But
> the same host with PCI NVMe could be connected to a FC network that has
> historically always been managed via dm-multipath.. but say that
> FC-based infrastructure gets updated to use NVMe (to leverage a wider
> NVMe investment, whatever?) -- but maybe admins would still prefer to
> use dm-multipath for the NVMe over FC.
That is a lot of maybes. If they prefer the good old way on FC then
can easily stay with SCSI, or for that matter use the global switch
off.
> > This might sound stupid to you, but can't users that desperately must
> > keep using dm-multipath (for its mature toolset or what-not) just
> > stack it on multipath nvme device? (I might be completely off on
> > this so feel free to correct my ignorance).
>
> We could certainly pursue adding multipath-tools support for native NVMe
> multipathing. Not opposed to it (even if just reporting topology and
> state). But given the extensive lengths NVMe multipath goes to hide
> devices we'd need some way to piercing through the opaque nvme device
> that native NVMe multipath exposes. But that really is a tangent
> relative to this patchset. Since that kind of visibility would also
> benefit the nvme cli... otherwise how are users to even be able to trust
> but verify native NVMe multipathing did what it expected it to?
Just look at the nvme-cli output or sysfs. It's all been there since
the code was merged to mainline.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-05-31 16:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-05-25 12:53 [PATCH 0/3] Provide more fine grained control over multipathing Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-25 12:53 ` [PATCH 1/3] nvme: provide a way to disable nvme mpath per subsystem Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-25 13:47 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-31 8:17 ` Sagi Grimberg
2018-05-25 12:53 ` [PATCH 2/3] nvme multipath: added SUBSYS_ATTR_RW Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-25 12:53 ` [PATCH 3/3] nvme multipath: add dev_attr_mpath_personality Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-25 13:05 ` [PATCH 0/3] Provide more fine grained control over multipathing Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-25 13:58 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-25 14:12 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-25 14:50 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-29 1:19 ` Martin K. Petersen
2018-05-29 3:02 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-29 7:18 ` Hannes Reinecke
2018-05-29 7:22 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-29 8:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-29 9:54 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-29 23:27 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-30 19:05 ` Jens Axboe
2018-05-30 19:59 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-04 6:19 ` Hannes Reinecke
2018-06-04 7:18 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-06-04 12:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-04 13:27 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-31 2:42 ` Ming Lei
2018-05-30 21:20 ` Sagi Grimberg
2018-05-30 22:02 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-31 8:37 ` Sagi Grimberg
2018-05-31 12:37 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-31 16:34 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-01 4:11 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-31 16:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-31 16:33 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2018-05-31 18:17 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-01 2:40 ` Martin K. Petersen
2018-06-01 4:24 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-01 14:09 ` Martin K. Petersen
2018-06-01 15:21 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-03 11:00 ` Sagi Grimberg
2018-06-03 16:06 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-04 11:46 ` Sagi Grimberg
2018-06-04 12:48 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-30 22:44 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-31 8:51 ` Sagi Grimberg
2018-05-31 12:41 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-04 21:58 ` Roland Dreier
2018-06-05 4:42 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-05 22:57 ` Roland Dreier
2018-06-06 9:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-06 9:32 ` Sagi Grimberg
2018-06-06 9:50 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-25 14:22 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-25 14:30 ` Christoph Hellwig
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