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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Nitesh Shetty <nj.shetty@samsung.com>
Cc: javier@javigon.com, chaitanyak@nvidia.com,
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	arnav.dawn@samsung.com, nitheshshetty@gmail.com,
	Alasdair Kergon <agk@redhat.com>,
	Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>,
	Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>,
	James Smart <james.smart@broadcom.com>,
	Chaitanya Kulkarni <kch@nvidia.com>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 00/10] Add Copy offload support
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 09:08:12 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220214220741.GB2872883@dread.disaster.area> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220214080002.18381-1-nj.shetty@samsung.com>

On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 01:29:50PM +0530, Nitesh Shetty wrote:
> The patch series covers the points discussed in November 2021 virtual call
> [LSF/MM/BFP TOPIC] Storage: Copy Offload[0].
> We have covered the Initial agreed requirements in this patchset.
> Patchset borrows Mikulas's token based approach for 2 bdev
> implementation.
> 
> Overall series supports –
> 
> 1. Driver
> - NVMe Copy command (single NS), including support in nvme-target (for
> 	block and file backend)
> 
> 2. Block layer
> - Block-generic copy (REQ_COPY flag), with interface accommodating
> 	two block-devs, and multi-source/destination interface
> - Emulation, when offload is natively absent
> - dm-linear support (for cases not requiring split)
> 
> 3. User-interface
> - new ioctl
> 
> 4. In-kernel user
> - dm-kcopyd

The biggest missing piece - and arguably the single most useful
piece of this functionality for users - is hooking this up to the
copy_file_range() syscall so that user file copies can be offloaded
to the hardware efficiently.

This seems like it would relatively easy to do with an fs/iomap iter
loop that maps src + dst file ranges and issues block copy offload
commands on the extents. We already do similar "read from source,
write to destination" operations in iomap, so it's not a huge
stretch to extent the iomap interfaces to provide an copy offload
mechanism using this infrastructure.

Also, hooking this up to copy-file-range() will also get you
immediate data integrity testing right down to the hardware via fsx
in fstests - it uses copy_file_range() as one of it's operations and
it will find all the off-by-one failures in both the linux IO stack
implementation and the hardware itself.

And, in reality, I wouldn't trust a block copy offload mechanism
until it is integrated with filesystems, the page cache and has
solid end-to-end data integrity testing available to shake out all
the bugs that will inevitably exist in this stack....

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-02-15  6:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CGME20220214080551epcas5p201d4d85e9d66077f97585bb3c64517c0@epcas5p2.samsung.com>
2022-02-14  7:59 ` [PATCH v3 00/10] Add Copy offload support Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-14  7:59   ` [PATCH v3 01/10] block: make bio_map_kern() non static Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-17  8:36     ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-02-17 13:30       ` Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-14  7:59   ` [PATCH v3 02/10] block: Introduce queue limits for copy-offload support Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-17  9:07     ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-02-17 10:16       ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-02-17 17:49         ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-02-17 12:59       ` Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-23  0:55         ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-02-23  1:29           ` Damien Le Moal
2022-02-24 12:12             ` Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-24 12:02           ` Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-14  7:59   ` [PATCH v3 03/10] block: Add copy offload support infrastructure Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-14  7:59   ` [PATCH v3 04/10] block: Introduce a new ioctl for copy Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-14  7:59   ` [PATCH v3 05/10] block: add emulation " Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-14  7:59   ` [PATCH v3 06/10] nvme: add copy offload support Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-14  7:59   ` [PATCH v3 07/10] nvmet: add copy command support for bdev and file ns Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-14  7:59   ` [PATCH v3 08/10] dm: Add support for copy offload Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-22 16:00     ` Mike Snitzer
2022-02-24 12:26       ` Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-14  7:59   ` [PATCH v3 09/10] dm: Enable copy offload for dm-linear target Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-14  8:00   ` [PATCH v3 10/10] dm kcopyd: use copy offload support Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-14 22:08   ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2022-02-17 13:02     ` [PATCH v3 00/10] Add Copy " Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-23  1:43       ` Dave Chinner

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