From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from bombadil.infradead.org (bombadil.infradead.org [198.137.202.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 26453C3ABB6 for ; Mon, 5 May 2025 11:11:32 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lists.infradead.org; s=bombadil.20210309; h=Sender:List-Subscribe:List-Help :List-Post:List-Archive:List-Unsubscribe:List-Id:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Owner; bh=ppEJ6EAIMkDOyqB6xqFAox8o6u0nXB7YagpYxgppZz8=; b=PZFf83Rp04yrCQnxZ4DOvTF5lj ly0jJqIQ0FegAixF3xB7f8j9DYyZVnIof6qvrTH1IFjsypY2lnctsOv0O9yINehSVxhggYS/H+QCb ohxGJyvYh9Zdqcb4oyiK1PbaWJEbsO04XH+OBlXCnPoi2lXRCdGgRPhnwcQvPjnrB1tl+N1LkHVaW FhEYAo/ZcILliOBMbR9yc1gQEbZ2nTt13Rs357lOQy52zLs3ANo58WN5HK4rQ3ZOBJdTHl/TSMdEJ YQUf4kaBqgIY4IY3JrCAE8IgtnTHGEZr4f0FRVdxBAkCWGa7tGY8aHJ4R8alwZje4bvqY7XMht4LY HYPmLwoA==; Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=bombadil.infradead.org) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtp (Exim 4.98.2 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1uBtjM-000000077TU-2SN4; Mon, 05 May 2025 11:11:28 +0000 Received: from verein.lst.de ([213.95.11.211]) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtps (Exim 4.98.2 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1uBtjJ-000000077Re-1tsj for linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org; Mon, 05 May 2025 11:11:26 +0000 Received: by verein.lst.de (Postfix, from userid 2407) id D24A668BEB; Mon, 5 May 2025 13:11:12 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 5 May 2025 13:11:11 +0200 From: Christoph Hellwig To: Javier Gonzalez Cc: Keith Busch , Judy Brock , Christoph Hellwig , "Ballard, Curtis C (HPE Storage)" , Hannes Reinecke , "hare@kernel.org" , Sagi Grimberg , "wagi@lst.de" , "linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org" Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] nvme: handle partially unique NID value Message-ID: <20250505111111.GB11508@lst.de> References: <20250414111916.GB13225@lst.de> <3e6fb1f6-d6f0-4f33-9389-dff37daae7b0@suse.de> <20250414114128.GA13822@lst.de> <20250502102505.GA13055@lst.de> <27a99b458f0144fba094726e4f470552@samsung.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-CRM114-Version: 20100106-BlameMichelson ( TRE 0.8.0 (BSD) ) MR-646709E3 X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid-20250505_041125_629161_0199CB44 X-CRM114-Status: GOOD ( 13.27 ) X-BeenThere: linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: "Linux-nvme" Errors-To: linux-nvme-bounces+linux-nvme=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org On Mon, May 05, 2025 at 11:51:39AM +0200, Javier Gonzalez wrote: > I think we should let HPE distros carry this quirk for drives where they > would not want to roll a FW update. Or just goddamn people to upgrade the broken firmware. Without it their data is at risk, so they'd better do it. Also maybe this is a lesson to SSDs vendors (and I really mean all of them) that if they can't push back ob broken "features" due to market dynamics they should at least OEM brand the devices in the identify data so that the blame gets deflected to the right party.