From: Mohamed Khalfella <mkhalfella@purestorage.com>
To: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
Cc: Justin Tee <justin.tee@broadcom.com>,
Naresh Gottumukkala <nareshgottumukkala83@gmail.com>,
Paul Ely <paul.ely@broadcom.com>,
Chaitanya Kulkarni <kch@nvidia.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>, Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>,
Aaron Dailey <adailey@purestorage.com>,
Randy Jennings <randyj@purestorage.com>,
Dhaval Giani <dgiani@purestorage.com>,
linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 08/14] nvme: Implement cross-controller reset recovery
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2026 15:24:56 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260204232456.GM3729-mkhalfella@purestorage.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <481562cd-0444-49db-8755-29436bec02de@suse.de>
On Wed 2026-02-04 02:10:48 +0100, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
> On 2/3/26 21:00, Mohamed Khalfella wrote:
> > On Tue 2026-02-03 06:19:51 +0100, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
> >> On 1/30/26 23:34, Mohamed Khalfella wrote:
> [ .. ]
> >>> + timeout = nvme_fence_timeout_ms(ictrl);
> >>> + dev_info(ictrl->device, "attempting CCR, timeout %lums\n", timeout);
> >>> +
> >>> + now = jiffies;
> >>> + deadline = now + msecs_to_jiffies(timeout);
> >>> + while (time_before(now, deadline)) {
> >>> + sctrl = nvme_find_ctrl_ccr(ictrl, min_cntlid);
> >>> + if (!sctrl) {
> >>> + /* CCR failed, switch to time-based recovery */
> >>> + return deadline - now;
> >>> + }
> >>> +
> >>> + ret = nvme_issue_wait_ccr(sctrl, ictrl);
> >>> + if (!ret) {
> >>> + dev_info(ictrl->device, "CCR succeeded using %s\n",
> >>> + dev_name(sctrl->device));
> >>> + nvme_put_ctrl_ccr(sctrl);
> >>> + return 0;
> >>> + }
> >>> +
> >>> + /* CCR failed, try another path */
> >>> + min_cntlid = sctrl->cntlid + 1;
> >>> + nvme_put_ctrl_ccr(sctrl);
> >>> + now = jiffies;
> >>> + }
> >>
> >> That will spin until 'deadline' is reached if 'nvme_issue_wait_ccr()'
> >> returns an error. _And_ if the CCR itself runs into a timeout we would
> >> never have tried another path (which could have succeeded).
> >
> > True. We can do one thing at a time in CCR time budget. Either wait for
> > CCR to succeed or give up early and try another path. It is a trade off.
> >
> Yes. But I guess my point here is that we should differentiate between
> 'CCR failed to be sent' and 'CCR completed with error'.
> The logic above treats both the same.
>
> >>
> >> I'd rather rework this loop to open-code 'issue_and_wait()' in the loop,
> >> and only switch to the next controller if the submission of CCR failed.
> >> Once that is done we can 'just' wait for completion, as a failure there
> >> will be after KATO timeout anyway and any subsequent CCR would be pointless.
> >
> > If I understood this correctly then we will stick with the first sctrl
> > that accepts the CCR command. We wait for CCR to complete and give up on
> > fencing ictrl if CCR operation fails or times out. Did I get this correctly?
> >
> Yes.
> If a CCR could be send but the controller failed to process it something
> very odd is ongoing, and it's extremely questionable whether a CCR to
> another controller would be succeeding. That's why I would switch to the
> next available controller if we could not _send_ the CCR, but would
> rather wait for KATO if CCR processing returned an error.
>
> But the main point is that CCR is a way to _shorten_ the interval
> (until KATO timeout) until we can start retrying commands.
> If the controller ran into an error during CCR processing chances
> are that quite some time has elapsed already, and we might as well
> wait for KATO instead of retrying with yet another CCR.
Got it. I updated the code to do that.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Hannes
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-04 23:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-30 22:34 [PATCH v2 00/14] TP8028 Rapid Path Failure Recovery Mohamed Khalfella
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 01/14] nvmet: Rapid Path Failure Recovery set controller identify fields Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03 3:03 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-03 18:14 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-04 0:34 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-07 13:41 ` Sagi Grimberg
2026-02-14 0:42 ` Randy Jennings
2026-02-14 3:56 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 02/14] nvmet/debugfs: Add ctrl uniquifier and random values Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03 3:04 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-07 13:47 ` Sagi Grimberg
2026-02-11 0:50 ` Randy Jennings
2026-02-11 1:02 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 03/14] nvmet: Implement CCR nvme command Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03 3:19 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-03 18:40 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-04 0:38 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-04 0:44 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-04 0:55 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-04 17:52 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-07 13:58 ` Sagi Grimberg
2026-02-08 23:10 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-09 19:27 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-11 1:34 ` Randy Jennings
2026-02-07 14:11 ` Sagi Grimberg
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 04/14] nvmet: Implement CCR logpage Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03 3:21 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-07 14:11 ` Sagi Grimberg
2026-02-11 1:49 ` Randy Jennings
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 05/14] nvmet: Send an AEN on CCR completion Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03 3:27 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-03 18:48 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-04 0:43 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-07 14:12 ` Sagi Grimberg
2026-02-11 1:52 ` Randy Jennings
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 06/14] nvme: Rapid Path Failure Recovery read controller identify fields Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03 3:28 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-07 14:13 ` Sagi Grimberg
2026-02-11 1:56 ` Randy Jennings
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 07/14] nvme: Introduce FENCING and FENCED controller states Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03 5:07 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-03 19:13 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 08/14] nvme: Implement cross-controller reset recovery Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03 5:19 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-03 20:00 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-04 1:10 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-04 23:24 ` Mohamed Khalfella [this message]
2026-02-11 3:44 ` Randy Jennings
2026-02-11 15:19 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-10 22:09 ` James Smart
2026-02-10 22:27 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-10 22:49 ` James Smart
2026-02-10 23:25 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-11 0:12 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-11 3:33 ` Randy Jennings
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 09/14] nvme: Implement cross-controller reset completion Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03 5:22 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-03 20:07 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 10/14] nvme-tcp: Use CCR to recover controller that hits an error Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03 5:34 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-03 21:24 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-04 0:48 ` Randy Jennings
2026-02-04 2:57 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-10 1:39 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 11/14] nvme-rdma: " Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03 5:35 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 12/14] nvme-fc: Decouple error recovery from controller reset Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03 5:40 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-03 21:29 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03 19:19 ` James Smart
2026-02-03 22:49 ` James Smart
2026-02-04 0:15 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-04 0:11 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-05 0:08 ` James Smart
2026-02-05 0:59 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-09 22:53 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 13/14] nvme-fc: Use CCR to recover controller that hits an error Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03 5:43 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-10 22:12 ` James Smart
2026-02-10 22:20 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-13 19:29 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 14/14] nvme-fc: Hold inflight requests while in FENCING state Mohamed Khalfella
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