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From: Mohamed Khalfella <mkhalfella@purestorage.com>
To: James Smart <jsmart833426@gmail.com>
Cc: Justin Tee <justin.tee@broadcom.com>,
	Naresh Gottumukkala <nareshgottumukkala83@gmail.com>,
	Paul Ely <paul.ely@broadcom.com>,
	Chaitanya Kulkarni <kch@nvidia.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>, Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>,
	Aaron Dailey <adailey@purestorage.com>,
	Randy Jennings <randyj@purestorage.com>,
	Dhaval Giani <dgiani@purestorage.com>,
	Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 08/14] nvme: Implement cross-controller reset recovery
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2026 16:12:43 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260211001243.GS3729-mkhalfella@purestorage.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260210232553.GR3729-mkhalfella@purestorage.com>

On Tue 2026-02-10 15:25:55 -0800, Mohamed Khalfella wrote:
> On Tue 2026-02-10 14:49:15 -0800, James Smart wrote:
> > On 2/10/2026 2:27 PM, Mohamed Khalfella wrote:
> > > On Tue 2026-02-10 14:09:27 -0800, James Smart wrote:
> > >> On 1/30/2026 2:34 PM, Mohamed Khalfella wrote:
> > >> ...
> > >>> +unsigned long nvme_fence_ctrl(struct nvme_ctrl *ictrl)
> > >>> +{
> > >>> +	unsigned long deadline, now, timeout;
> > >>> +	struct nvme_ctrl *sctrl;
> > >>> +	u32 min_cntlid = 0;
> > >>> +	int ret;
> > >>> +
> > >>> +	timeout = nvme_fence_timeout_ms(ictrl);
> > >>> +	dev_info(ictrl->device, "attempting CCR, timeout %lums\n", timeout);
> > >>> +
> > >>> +	now = jiffies;
> > >>> +	deadline = now + msecs_to_jiffies(timeout);
> > >>> +	while (time_before(now, deadline)) {
> > >>
> > >> Q: don't we have something to identify the controller's subsystem
> > >> supports CCR before we starting selecting controllers and sending CCR ?
> > >>
> > >> I would think on older devices that don't support it we should be
> > >> skipping this loop.   The loop could delay the Time-Based delay without
> > >> any CCR.
> > > 
> > > I do not think we have something that identifies CCR support at
> > > subsystem level. The spec defines CCRL at the controller level. The loop
> > > should not that bad. nvme_find_ctrl_ccr() should return NULL if CCR is
> > > not supported and nvme_fence_ctrl() will return immediately.
> > > 
> > >>
> > >> -- james
> > >>
> > 
> > I would think CCRL on the failed controller would be enough to assume 
> > the subsystem supports it.
> 
> ictrl->ccr_limit is a good indication that subsystem supports CCR. I do
> not think it is enough though. I say that for two reasons:
> 
> - May be this controller does not support CCR but others do on the same
>   subsystem. There is nothing prevents subsystem from putting a cap of
>   CCR at subsytem level.
> - May be this controller supports CCR command but not now because all
>   CCR slots are used now. This can happen in the case of cascading
>   failure.
> 
> > 
> > I'm not worried about the coding on the host is so bad. It's more the 
> > multiple paths that must have cmds sent to them and getting error 
> > responses for unknown cmds (should be responded to ok, but you never 
> > know) as well as creating conditions for other errors where there will 
> > be no return for it - e.g. other paths losing connectivity while the ccr 
> > outstanding, etc. yes, they all have to work, but why bother adding 
> > these flows to an old controller that would never do CCR ?
> 
> If nvme_find_ctrl_ccr() returns a source controller to use then we know
> the controller supports CCR and does have an available slot to process
> this CCR request. I do not see how this code will send CCR request to an
> old controller that does not know about CCR command.
> 
> I am not fully opposed against using ictrl->ccr_limit to return early. I
> do not see the need for it. If you feel strongly about it I can update
> nvme_fence_ctrl() to do so.
> 

I forgot to mention that ctrl->ccr_limit is initialized from id->ccrl in 
nvme_init_identify(). If this value is greater than zero then we know
the controller does support CCR. nvme_find_ctrl_ccr() checks for that
and the returned source controller must support CCR and has a slot
available for it.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-11  0:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-30 22:34 [PATCH v2 00/14] TP8028 Rapid Path Failure Recovery Mohamed Khalfella
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 01/14] nvmet: Rapid Path Failure Recovery set controller identify fields Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03  3:03   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-03 18:14     ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-04  0:34       ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-07 13:41         ` Sagi Grimberg
2026-02-14  0:42           ` Randy Jennings
2026-02-14  3:56             ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 02/14] nvmet/debugfs: Add ctrl uniquifier and random values Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03  3:04   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-07 13:47   ` Sagi Grimberg
2026-02-11  0:50   ` Randy Jennings
2026-02-11  1:02     ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 03/14] nvmet: Implement CCR nvme command Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03  3:19   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-03 18:40     ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-04  0:38       ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-04  0:44         ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-04  0:55           ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-04 17:52             ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-07 13:58               ` Sagi Grimberg
2026-02-08 23:10                 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-09 19:27                   ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-11  1:34                     ` Randy Jennings
2026-02-07 14:11   ` Sagi Grimberg
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 04/14] nvmet: Implement CCR logpage Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03  3:21   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-07 14:11   ` Sagi Grimberg
2026-02-11  1:49   ` Randy Jennings
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 05/14] nvmet: Send an AEN on CCR completion Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03  3:27   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-03 18:48     ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-04  0:43       ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-07 14:12   ` Sagi Grimberg
2026-02-11  1:52   ` Randy Jennings
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 06/14] nvme: Rapid Path Failure Recovery read controller identify fields Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03  3:28   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-07 14:13   ` Sagi Grimberg
2026-02-11  1:56   ` Randy Jennings
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 07/14] nvme: Introduce FENCING and FENCED controller states Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03  5:07   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-03 19:13     ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 08/14] nvme: Implement cross-controller reset recovery Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03  5:19   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-03 20:00     ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-04  1:10       ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-04 23:24         ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-11  3:44           ` Randy Jennings
2026-02-11 15:19             ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-10 22:09   ` James Smart
2026-02-10 22:27     ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-10 22:49       ` James Smart
2026-02-10 23:25         ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-11  0:12           ` Mohamed Khalfella [this message]
2026-02-11  3:33             ` Randy Jennings
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 09/14] nvme: Implement cross-controller reset completion Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03  5:22   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-03 20:07     ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 10/14] nvme-tcp: Use CCR to recover controller that hits an error Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03  5:34   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-03 21:24     ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-04  0:48       ` Randy Jennings
2026-02-04  2:57       ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-10  1:39         ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 11/14] nvme-rdma: " Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03  5:35   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 12/14] nvme-fc: Decouple error recovery from controller reset Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03  5:40   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-03 21:29     ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03 19:19   ` James Smart
2026-02-03 22:49     ` James Smart
2026-02-04  0:15       ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-04  0:11     ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-05  0:08       ` James Smart
2026-02-05  0:59         ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-09 22:53         ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 13/14] nvme-fc: Use CCR to recover controller that hits an error Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03  5:43   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-10 22:12   ` James Smart
2026-02-10 22:20     ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-13 19:29       ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 14/14] nvme-fc: Hold inflight requests while in FENCING state Mohamed Khalfella

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