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From: Mohamed Khalfella <mkhalfella@purestorage.com>
To: Randy Jennings <randyj@purestorage.com>
Cc: Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>, Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>,
	Justin Tee <justin.tee@broadcom.com>,
	Naresh Gottumukkala <nareshgottumukkala83@gmail.com>,
	Paul Ely <paul.ely@broadcom.com>,
	Chaitanya Kulkarni <kch@nvidia.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>,
	Aaron Dailey <adailey@purestorage.com>,
	Dhaval Giani <dgiani@purestorage.com>,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 01/14] nvmet: Rapid Path Failure Recovery set controller identify fields
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2026 19:56:54 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260214035654.GC3435530-mkhalfella@purestorage.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPpK+O3Uus03zmuqif++5fMVDdXXLiUxOwxdbixRyfkhMTJ5NA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri 2026-02-13 16:42:55 -0800, Randy Jennings wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 7, 2026 at 5:41 AM Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Precisely my point. If CQT defaults to zero no delay will be inserted,
> > > but we _still_ have CCR handling. Just proving that both really are
> > > independent on each other. Hence I would prefer to have two patchsets.
> >
> > Agreed. I think it would be cleaner to review each separately. the CCR
> > can be based
> > on top of the CQT patchset, for simplicity.
> >
> Hannes, I have some concerns about structuring the CQT patches
> separate from the CCR patches.
> 
> We are trying to fix the Ghost Write data corruption, and this has
> been a long process (involving 3 modifications to the spec and a
> number of proposed patch sets).  We’ve already been told (explicitly
> and implicitly) that CCR is the more interesting solution (a
> euphemism) for solving this data corruption.  I have some concern
> that, if  separated, the CCR patches will get accepted without the CQT
> patches.
> 
> CCR does not work in all cases, so I do not see them as independent as
> you are saying here. Also, CQT is a natural time cap on the retries
> needed for CCR to handle CCR retries when it cannot succeed down some
> paths.  When used as a time cap, CQT fits well with the CCR changes.
> 
> I am concerned that it will be more complicated to review the CQT
> changes, with at least more patches to review.

True. It results in more patches to review. However, I think it is
easier to see the delay added by CQT after the it has pulled pulled into
separate set of patches.

> 
> Structuring the patches with CQT first and CCR second would take care
> of many of these concerns.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Randy Jennings


  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-14  3:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-30 22:34 [PATCH v2 00/14] TP8028 Rapid Path Failure Recovery Mohamed Khalfella
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 01/14] nvmet: Rapid Path Failure Recovery set controller identify fields Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03  3:03   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-03 18:14     ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-04  0:34       ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-07 13:41         ` Sagi Grimberg
2026-02-14  0:42           ` Randy Jennings
2026-02-14  3:56             ` Mohamed Khalfella [this message]
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 02/14] nvmet/debugfs: Add ctrl uniquifier and random values Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03  3:04   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-07 13:47   ` Sagi Grimberg
2026-02-11  0:50   ` Randy Jennings
2026-02-11  1:02     ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 03/14] nvmet: Implement CCR nvme command Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03  3:19   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-03 18:40     ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-04  0:38       ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-04  0:44         ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-04  0:55           ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-04 17:52             ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-07 13:58               ` Sagi Grimberg
2026-02-08 23:10                 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-09 19:27                   ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-11  1:34                     ` Randy Jennings
2026-02-07 14:11   ` Sagi Grimberg
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 04/14] nvmet: Implement CCR logpage Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03  3:21   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-07 14:11   ` Sagi Grimberg
2026-02-11  1:49   ` Randy Jennings
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 05/14] nvmet: Send an AEN on CCR completion Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03  3:27   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-03 18:48     ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-04  0:43       ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-07 14:12   ` Sagi Grimberg
2026-02-11  1:52   ` Randy Jennings
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 06/14] nvme: Rapid Path Failure Recovery read controller identify fields Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03  3:28   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-07 14:13   ` Sagi Grimberg
2026-02-11  1:56   ` Randy Jennings
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 07/14] nvme: Introduce FENCING and FENCED controller states Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03  5:07   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-03 19:13     ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 08/14] nvme: Implement cross-controller reset recovery Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03  5:19   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-03 20:00     ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-04  1:10       ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-04 23:24         ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-11  3:44           ` Randy Jennings
2026-02-11 15:19             ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-10 22:09   ` James Smart
2026-02-10 22:27     ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-10 22:49       ` James Smart
2026-02-10 23:25         ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-11  0:12           ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-11  3:33             ` Randy Jennings
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 09/14] nvme: Implement cross-controller reset completion Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03  5:22   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-03 20:07     ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 10/14] nvme-tcp: Use CCR to recover controller that hits an error Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03  5:34   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-03 21:24     ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-04  0:48       ` Randy Jennings
2026-02-04  2:57       ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-10  1:39         ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 11/14] nvme-rdma: " Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03  5:35   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 12/14] nvme-fc: Decouple error recovery from controller reset Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03  5:40   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-03 21:29     ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03 19:19   ` James Smart
2026-02-03 22:49     ` James Smart
2026-02-04  0:15       ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-04  0:11     ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-05  0:08       ` James Smart
2026-02-05  0:59         ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-09 22:53         ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 13/14] nvme-fc: Use CCR to recover controller that hits an error Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03  5:43   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-10 22:12   ` James Smart
2026-02-10 22:20     ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-13 19:29       ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 14/14] nvme-fc: Hold inflight requests while in FENCING state Mohamed Khalfella

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