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From: Nilay Shroff <nilay@linux.ibm.com>
To: Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org
Cc: dwagner@suse.de, hare@suse.de, kbusch@kernel.org, hch@lst.de,
	gjoyce@linux.ibm.com, chaitanyak@nvidia.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] nvme-cli: NIC topology aware I/O queue scaling
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2026 14:18:21 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <32bcaf68-a142-4612-9967-815dd28ee2a0@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4a80220a-2cba-4a4a-85c2-7c3d3ae8a20a@grimberg.me>

On 8/23/26 3:13 AM, Sagi Grimberg wrote:
> 
> 
> On 21/08/2026 17:43, Nilay Shroff wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> This series is a rework of the earlier patchset[1]. The main
>> difference is that --nr-io-queues is now calculated in nvme-cli
>> instead of in the kernel when establishing an NVMe/TCP connection.
>>
>> This rework is based on the feedback received[2] from the netdev
>> maintainers.
>>
>> The original patchset determined the number of NVMe/TCP I/O queues
>> based on the number of online CPUs and the number of hardware queues
>> available on the NIC in kernel driver. This series moves that logic
>> to nvme-cli.
>>
>> When --nr-io-queues is not explicitly specified, nvme-cli determines
>> the egress netdev for the NVMe/TCP connection, retrieves its current
>> hardware queue count, and calculates the default as:
>>
>>     min(nr_hw_queues, num_online_cpus)
> 
> This looks reasonable Nilay.
> 
Thank you...

> I am wandering tho if we want to place some lower limit here.
> For example, my laptop has a virtio device with 4 cpu cores and
> a single combined ring:
> -- 
> $ lscpu | grep NUMA
> NUMA node(s):                            1
> NUMA node0 CPU(s):                       0-3
> $ ethtool -l enp7s0
> Channel parameters for enp7s0:
> Pre-set maximums:
> RX:        n/a
> TX:        n/a
> Other:        n/a
> Combined:    1
> Current hardware settings:
> RX:        n/a
> TX:        n/a
> Other:        n/a
> Combined:    1
> -- 
> 
> It would be kinda annoying for me to now explicitly pass the nr-io-queues...
> I am wandering if some sort of threshold make sense as what you are aiming for
> is reducing the amount of queues for large cpu counts...

I think you're running a QEMU guest using user-mode (SLIRP) networking, so having
a combined queue count of 1 is expected.

I also tested this setup before posting the change. With QEMU user-mode networking,
increasing --nr-io-queues beyond 1 (I tried 4 and 8 with vCPU set to match those
numbers) did not improve performance. In fact, limiting --nr-io-queues to 1, which
matches the netdev's single combined queue, gave slightly better performance.

My understanding is that in this topology there is only a single underlying
virtqueue/network queue, so creating multiple NVMe/TCP I/O queues does not provide
additional network parallelism. Instead, those NVMe/TCP queues end up contending
on the same virtqueue/network queue, which can add overhead without providing additional
throughput.

So I'm inclined not to impose an arbitrary lower limit on --nr-io-queues. If the
egress netdev reports only one hardware queue, min(nr_hw_queues, num_online_cpus)
naturally gives 1, which seems like the appropriate choice for this topology. If
the goal is to achieve higher throughput in a QEMU guest, using a networking
configuration with multiqueue support (for example, multiqueue virtio with
vhost-net) would be more appropriate. In that case, the number of available netdev
hardware queues can scale beyond one, and the calculated nr-io-queues can make use
of that parallelism. Alternatively, with PCI/VFIO passthrough, the guest can directly
use the queues exposed by the physical NIC, allowing --nr-io-queues to scale
accordingly.

Thanks,
--Nilay



      reply	other threads:[~2026-08-24  8:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-21 14:43 [PATCH 0/3] nvme-cli: NIC topology aware I/O queue scaling Nilay Shroff
2026-08-21 14:43 ` [PATCH 1/3] shared/net-util-linux: add support for retrieving egress netdev Nilay Shroff
2026-08-21 14:43 ` [PATCH 2/3] shared/net-util-linux: add support for retrieving NIC h/w queues Nilay Shroff
2026-08-21 14:43 ` [PATCH 3/3] fabrics: determine --nr-io-queues when not explicitly specified Nilay Shroff
2026-08-22 21:43 ` [PATCH 0/3] nvme-cli: NIC topology aware I/O queue scaling Sagi Grimberg
2026-08-24  8:48   ` Nilay Shroff [this message]

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