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From: bvanassche@acm.org (Bart Van Assche)
Subject: RFC: Allow block drivers to poll for I/O instead of sleeping
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 09:07:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51C941B1.6000305@acm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130625031809.GB8211@linux.intel.com>

On 06/25/13 05:18, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013@10:07:51AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>> I'm wondering, how will this scheme work if the IO completion latency is a
>> lot more than the 5 usecs in the testcase? What if it takes 20 usecs or
>> 100 usecs or more?
>
> There's clearly a threshold at which it stops making sense, and our
> current NAND-based SSDs are almost certainly on the wrong side of that
> threshold!  I can't wait for one of the "post-NAND" technologies to make
> it to market in some form that makes it economical to use in an SSD.
>
> The problem is that some of the people who are looking at those
> technologies are crazy.  They want to "bypass the kernel" and "do user
> space I/O" because "the kernel is too slow".  This patch is part of an
> effort to show them how crazy they are.  And even if it doesn't convince
> them, at least users who refuse to rewrite their applications to take
> advantage of magical userspace I/O libraries will see real performance
> benefits.

Recently I attended an interesting talk about this subject in which it 
was proposed not only to bypass the kernel for access to high-IOPS 
devices but also to allow byte-addressability for block devices. The 
slides that accompanied that talk can be found here (includes a 
performance comparison with the traditional block driver API):

Bernard Metzler, On Suitability of High-Performance Networking API for 
Storage, OFA Int'l Developer Workshop, April 24, 2013 
(http://www.openfabrics.org/ofa-documents/presentations/doc_download/559-on-suitability-of-high-performance-networking-api-for-storage.html).

This approach leaves the choice of whether to use polling or an 
interrupt-based completion notification to the user of the new API, 
something the Linux InfiniBand RDMA verbs API already allows today.

Bart.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-25  7:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-20 20:17 RFC: Allow block drivers to poll for I/O instead of sleeping Matthew Wilcox
2013-06-23 10:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-06-23 18:29   ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-24  7:17     ` Jens Axboe
2013-06-25  0:11       ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-25  3:07         ` Matthew Wilcox
2013-06-25 13:57           ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-25 14:57         ` Jens Axboe
2013-06-24  8:07     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-06-25  3:18       ` Matthew Wilcox
2013-06-25  7:07         ` Bart Van Assche [this message]
2013-06-25 15:00         ` Jens Axboe
2013-06-27 18:10     ` Rik van Riel
2013-06-23 22:14   ` David Ahern
2013-06-24  8:21     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-06-24  7:15   ` Jens Axboe
2013-06-24  8:18     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-06-25  3:01     ` Matthew Wilcox
2013-06-25 14:55       ` Jens Axboe
2013-06-27 18:42 ` Rik van Riel
2013-07-04  1:13 ` Shaohua Li

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