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From: arnd@linaro.org (Arnd Bergmann)
Subject: NVMe vs DMA addressing limitations
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 16:02:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9020459.Ga31IGQ4TP@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170110144839.GB27156@lst.de>

On Tuesday, January 10, 2017 3:48:39 PM CET Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017@12:01:05PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > Another workaround me might need is to limit amount of concurrent DMA
> > in the NVMe driver based on some platform quirk. The way that NVMe works,
> > it can have very large amounts of data that is concurrently mapped into
> > the device.
> 
> That's not really just NVMe - other storage and network controllers also
> can DMA map giant amounts of memory.  There are a couple aspects to it:
> 
>  - dma coherent memoery - right now NVMe doesn't use too much of it,
>    but upcoming low-end NVMe controllers will soon start to require
>    fairl large amounts of it for the host memory buffer feature that
>    allows for DRAM-less controller designs.  As an interesting quirk
>    that is memory only used by the PCIe devices, and never accessed
>    by the Linux host at all.

Right, that is going to become interesting, as some platforms are
very limited with their coherent allocations.

>  - size vs number of the dynamic mapping.  We probably want the dma_ops
>    specify a maximum mapping size for a given device.  As long as we
>    can make progress with a few mappings swiotlb / the iommu can just
>    fail mapping and the driver will propagate that to the block layer
>    that throttles I/O.

Good idea.

	Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-10 15:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found]   ` <9a03c05d-ad4c-0547-d1fe-01edb8b082d6@cogentembedded.com>
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2017-01-09 20:34       ` [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit DMA mask Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-09 20:57         ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]           ` <e084dbad-29ab-25bd-5e17-da0fcd92f7ac@cogentembedded.com>
2017-01-10  7:07             ` NVMe vs DMA addressing limitations Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-10  7:31               ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-10 11:01                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-10 14:48                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-10 15:02                     ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2017-01-12 10:09                     ` Sagi Grimberg
2017-01-12 11:56                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-12 13:07                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-10 10:54               ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-10 10:47           ` [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit DMA mask Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-10 14:44             ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-10 15:00               ` Arnd Bergmann

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