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From: David Jeffery <djeffery@redhat.com>
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Stuart Hayes <stuart.w.hayes@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 "Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Martin Belanger <Martin.Belanger@dell.com>,
	 "Oliver O'Halloran" <oohall@gmail.com>,
	Daniel Wagner <dwagner@suse.de>, Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>,
	 Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>,
	Jeremy Allison <jallison@ciq.com>, Jens Axboe <axboe@fb.com>,
	 Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org,
	 Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>,
	Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@seimens.com>,
	 Bert Karwatzki <spasswolf@web.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 0/5] shut down devices asynchronously
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2025 10:09:01 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+-xHTFKh0VUJ0r4K5L5b0dmrs9d1+cNkqf4HvKa4E-r_+u2CA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2025070408-starlight-pandemic-0266@gregkh>

On Fri, Jul 4, 2025 at 9:45 AM Greg Kroah-Hartman
<gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jul 04, 2025 at 09:38:15AM -0400, David Jeffery wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 3, 2025 at 7:47 AM Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 03:18:48PM -0500, Stuart Hayes wrote:
> > > > Address resource and timing issues when spawning a unique async thread
> > > > for every device during shutdown:
> > > >   * Make the asynchronous threads able to shut down multiple devices,
> > > >     instead of spawning a unique thread for every device.
> > > >   * Modify core kernel async code with a custom wake function so it
> > > >     doesn't wake up threads waiting to synchronize every time the cookie
> > > >     changes
> > >
> > > Given all these thread spawning issues, why can't we just go back
> > > to the approach that kicks off shutdown asynchronously and then waits
> > > for it without spawning all these threads?
> > >
> >
> > The async subsystem fix is something that should be fixed regardless
> > of async shutdown. Async shutdown's use just exposed its thundering
> > herd behavior which is easily fixed.
>
> Great, then please submit that on its own and get the maintainer of that
> subsystem to agree and accept it as I have no way to judge that code at
> all.

Unfortunately, it does not have a maintainer listed and sees limited
activity. Would CC-ing some of the recent developers of kernel/async.c
to ask them to review be recommended in this situation?

David Jeffery



  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-04 14:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-25 20:18 [PATCH v10 0/5] shut down devices asynchronously Stuart Hayes
2025-06-25 20:18 ` [PATCH v10 1/5] kernel/async: streamline cookie synchronization Stuart Hayes
2025-07-08 22:17   ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-06-25 20:18 ` [PATCH v10 2/5] driver core: don't always lock parent in shutdown Stuart Hayes
2025-07-01  8:50   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-07-02 14:38     ` David Jeffery
2025-06-25 20:18 ` [PATCH v10 3/5] driver core: separate function to shutdown one device Stuart Hayes
2025-06-25 20:18 ` [PATCH v10 4/5] driver core: shut down devices asynchronously Stuart Hayes
2025-06-25 20:18 ` [PATCH v10 5/5] nvme-pci: Make driver prefer asynchronous shutdown Stuart Hayes
2025-06-30 20:33 ` [PATCH v10 0/5] shut down devices asynchronously Michael Kelley
2025-06-30 22:02   ` Laurence Oberman
2025-07-03 11:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-07-03 15:41   ` Jeremy Allison
2025-07-04 13:45     ` David Jeffery
2025-07-04 16:26       ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-07-07 15:34         ` David Jeffery
2025-07-07 20:49           ` stuart hayes
2025-07-08  0:00             ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-07-08 21:47               ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-07-08 21:31             ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-07-03 15:59   ` stuart hayes
2025-07-04 13:38   ` David Jeffery
2025-07-04 13:44     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-07-04 14:09       ` David Jeffery [this message]
2025-07-04 14:13         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman

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