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From: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
To: Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>
Cc: Maurizio Lombardi <mlombard@redhat.com>,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, axboe@fb.com,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>,
	Ming Lei <minlei@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: nvme-host: disk corruptions when issuing IDENTIFY commands via ioctl()
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2022 10:48:35 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YigVg/URukuwwKWF@T590> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220309011429.GA3948855@dhcp-10-100-145-180.wdc.com>

On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 05:14:29PM -0800, Keith Busch wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 09:02:42AM +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 04:39:04PM -0800, Keith Busch wrote:
> > > On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 08:18:47AM +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
> > > > Given NVMe spec states that data length of IDENTIFY command should be
> > > > 4096bytes, and PRP list can't be used. 
> > > > 
> > > > So looks nvme driver need to validate the command before submitting to
> > > > hardware, otherwise any buggy application can break FS or memory easily.
> > > 
> > > No way. The driver does not police the user passthrough interface for
> > > these kinds of things.
> > 
> > So you trust application to provide correct data always?
> >
> > From user viewpoint, this defect provides one easy hole to break FS or
> > memory, it is one serious issue, IMO. The FS/memory corruption can
> > be reproduced easily even in VM.
> 
> It doesn't seem so serious considering it's been this way for 10 years,
> and we already knew about this. It's even been reported before:
> 
>   http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-nvme/2013-August/000365.html

BTW, this issue is actually one real report from one Red Hat Customer.

> 
> > > It couldn't ever be complete or future proof if
> > > it did.
> > 
> > But the spec states clearly the data length of IDENTIFY command is 4096
> > and PRP list can't be used, so why do you think it isn't complete or
> > future proof to validate data length of IDENTIFY in nvme driver?
> 
> The current spec says that opcode uses 4k today. What about some time in
> the future?

spec change should only be applied on future hardware, which can not break
current in-market hardware.

nvme target has validated the Identify's transfer length already.

> And why are you focusing on Identify anyway?

Nvme spec states explicitly that the following 4 commands can't use PRP list:

- Identify command
- Namespace Attachment command
- Namespace Management command
- Set Features command

So it should be enough to just validate these commands.

Thanks, 
Ming



  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-09  2:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-08 16:45 nvme-host: disk corruptions when issuing IDENTIFY commands via ioctl() Maurizio Lombardi
2022-03-08 19:52 ` Keith Busch
2022-03-09  0:18   ` Ming Lei
2022-03-09  0:39     ` Keith Busch
2022-03-09  1:02       ` Ming Lei
2022-03-09  1:14         ` Keith Busch
2022-03-09  2:48           ` Ming Lei [this message]
2022-03-09  3:09             ` Keith Busch
2022-03-09  6:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-09 16:23   ` Keith Busch
2022-03-10 16:04     ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-10 17:38       ` Keith Busch

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