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From: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
To: Vishnu ks <ksvishnu56@gmail.com>
Cc: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Song Liu via Lsf-pc <lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	hch@infradead.org, yanjun.zhu@linux.dev,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [Lsf-pc] [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] Improving Block Layer Tracepoints for Next-Generation Backup Systems
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2025 10:06:14 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z6Vqlo3s3sK6d0ng@fedora> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJHDoJZ5rFhgu-R_N6e82bqkY43S-sXKVs2khnnnZrqJH1vcHw@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 11:01:30PM +0530, Vishnu ks wrote:
> Thanks everyone for the detailed technical feedback and clarifications
> - they've been extremely valuable in understanding the fundamental
> challenges and existing solutions.
> 
> I appreciate the points about md-cluster and DRBD's network RAID
> capabilities. While these are robust solutions for network-based
> replication, I'm particularly interested in the point-in-time recovery
> capability for scenarios like ransomware recovery, where being able to
> roll back to a specific point before encryption occurred would be
> valuable.
> 
> Regarding blk_filter - I've been exploring it since it was mentioned,
> and it indeed seems to be the right approach for what we're trying to
> achieve. However, I've found that many of our current requirements can
> actually be implemented using eBPF without additional kernel modules.
> I plan to create a detailed demonstration video to share my findings
> with this thread. Additionally, I'll be cleaning up and open-sourcing
> our replicator utility implementation for community feedback.
> 
> I would very much like to attend the LSF/MM/BPF summit to discuss
> these ideas in person and learn more about blk_filter and proper block
> layer fundamentals. Would it be possible for someone to help me with
> an invitation?

If one pair of bpf struct_ops are added for attaching to submit_bio()
and ->bi_end_io() in bio_endio(), lots of cases can be covered:

- blk filter

- bio interposer

- blk-snap

- easier IO trace

...

Then both bio and request based devices can be covered.

It shouldn't be hard to figure out generic bio/bvec kfuncs for helping block IO
bpf prog to do more valuable things & fun.

Thanks, 
Ming



  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-07  2:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-01  6:34 [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] Improving Block Layer Tracepoints for Next-Generation Backup Systems Vishnu ks
2025-01-03  9:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-04  0:47 ` Zhu Yanjun
2025-01-04  1:11 ` Song Liu
2025-01-04 17:52   ` Vishnu ks
2025-01-06  1:53     ` Damien Le Moal
2025-01-06 18:28       ` Vishnu ks
2025-01-06  7:37     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-06 14:39       ` Zhu Yanjun
2025-01-06 18:36         ` Vishnu ks
2025-01-06 18:31       ` Vishnu ks
2025-01-06 21:19     ` Song Liu
2025-01-06 22:18       ` [Lsf-pc] " Dan Williams
2025-01-13 17:31         ` Vishnu ks
2025-02-07  2:06           ` Ming Lei [this message]
2025-02-07 11:15             ` Vishnu ks

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