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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@suse.de>
To: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
Cc: Brian Swetland <swetland@google.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	tytso@mit.edu, Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Florian Mickler <florian@mickler.org>, Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Linux PM <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Linux OMAP Mailing List <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Felipe Balbi <felipe.balbi@nokia.com>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] suspend blockers & Android integration
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:28:22 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1276266502.2862.74.camel@mulgrave.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <527264.20535.qm@web180316.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 21:21 -0700, David Brownell wrote:
> Do we at least have a clean way that a driver can
> reject a system suspend?  I've lost track of many
> issues, but maybe this could be phrased as a QOS
> constraint:  the current config of driver X needs
> clock Y active to enter the  target system suspend
> state, driver's suspend() method reports as much.  Then the entry to
> that system state gets blocked
> if the clock isn't enabled.

So in QoS modifications to android patches, the answer is "yes" ...
except that the current android patch set didn't actually have this type
of wakelock in it.

Android wants an idleness suspend block (or pm qos constraint) that a
driver can set to prevent the system idleness power govenor from
dropping into a power state too low for the driver, so in USB terms this
would prevent the states that shut down the clock.  For android, it
prevented shutdown of an internal i2c bus.

The one thing that does look difficult is that these power constraints
are device (and sometimes SoC) specific.  Expressing them in a generic
way for the cpu govenors to make sense of might be hard.

> (That QOS constraint should be removed when that
> driver no longer needs to issue wakeups; that's
> not quite the same as "removed by driver.resume().

The USB one needs user input, doesn't it, since user hot plug might (or
might not) be one of the wakeup sources.

James

  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-11 14:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 195+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-03 19:30 suspend blockers & Android integration Ingo Molnar
2010-06-03 19:50 ` Brian Swetland
2010-06-04  7:57   ` Ingo Molnar
2010-06-04  8:29     ` Brian Swetland
2010-06-04  8:55       ` Ingo Molnar
2010-06-04  9:03         ` Pekka Enberg
2010-06-04  9:08         ` Brian Swetland
2010-06-04  9:59           ` Ingo Molnar
2010-06-04 10:09             ` Brian Swetland
2010-06-04 14:24             ` James Bottomley
2010-06-04 15:07               ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-06  8:04           ` david
2010-06-10 13:58       ` Pavel Machek
2010-06-11  4:21         ` [linux-pm] " David Brownell
2010-06-11 14:28           ` James Bottomley [this message]
2010-06-11 14:46             ` Alan Stern
2010-06-11 15:01               ` Mark Brown
2010-06-11 15:02               ` James Bottomley
2010-06-11 20:48                 ` Alan Stern
2010-06-11 21:04                   ` James Bottomley
2010-06-12 17:10                   ` Mark Brown
2010-06-12  2:43             ` David Brownell
2010-06-11 14:42           ` Alan Stern
     [not found] ` <20100603231153.GA11302@elte.hu>
2010-06-03 23:23   ` Ingo Molnar
2010-06-03 23:37     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-03 23:46       ` Ingo Molnar
2010-06-04  2:16         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-04  2:26           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-04  3:45             ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-06-04  4:46               ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-04 10:42                 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-04  8:15               ` Ingo Molnar
2010-06-06  8:16               ` david
2010-06-06  8:23             ` david
2010-06-04  3:45           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-04  6:22           ` Ingo Molnar
2010-06-04  8:11           ` Ingo Molnar
2010-06-05 20:37           ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-04  0:39     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-06-04 14:50       ` Alan Stern
2010-06-04  4:38     ` Neil Brown
2010-06-04  4:54     ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-04  7:13       ` Ingo Molnar
2010-06-04  7:37         ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-04  8:34           ` Ingo Molnar
2010-06-04  8:56             ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-04 12:06               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-05  0:10                 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-05  9:54                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-05 16:28                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-06-05 21:26                       ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-05 22:23                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-06-05 22:26                           ` Brian Swetland
2010-06-05 22:48                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-06-05 23:45                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-06  0:34                               ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-05 22:52                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-05 22:39                           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-05 23:34                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-06-06  0:02                               ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-06 11:18                           ` Felipe Contreras
2010-06-06 11:26                             ` david
2010-06-06  7:52                         ` [linux-pm] " Vitaly Wool
2010-06-06  8:20                           ` Brian Swetland
2010-06-06  8:32                             ` Vitaly Wool
2010-06-06  9:21                               ` Brian Swetland
2010-06-06  9:56                                 ` david
2010-06-06 11:11                                   ` Felipe Contreras
2010-06-06 10:00                                 ` Vitaly Wool
2010-06-06 10:12                                   ` david
2010-06-06 10:19                                     ` [linux-pm] " Vitaly Wool
2010-06-06 10:49                                       ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-06 10:57                                         ` Vitaly Wool
2010-06-06 11:14                                         ` [linux-pm] " david
2010-06-07 12:16                                           ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-09  1:14                                             ` david
2010-06-09  3:46                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-09  7:43                                                 ` [linux-pm] " Felipe Contreras
2010-06-09  9:40                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-09 22:04                                                     ` Neil Brown
2010-06-10  8:59                                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-10 12:00                                                         ` Neil Brown
2010-06-10 16:06                                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-10 13:57                                                         ` Mark Brown
2010-06-10 15:46                                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-10 19:01                                                             ` Mark Brown
2010-06-10 14:47                                                         ` Alan Stern
2010-06-10 15:44                                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-06 10:46                                   ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-06 11:05                                     ` Alan Cox
2010-06-06 13:34                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2010-06-06 14:31                                       ` James Bottomley
2010-06-06 15:46                                         ` [linux-pm] " Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-06 17:08                                           ` James Bottomley
2010-06-06 18:04                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-06 18:44                                               ` Brian Swetland
2010-06-06 19:26                                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-06 19:05                                             ` [linux-pm] " Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-06 19:15                                               ` Brian Swetland
2010-06-06 19:24                                                 ` [linux-pm] " Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-06 19:58                                                   ` Brian Swetland
2010-06-06 22:26                                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-07  8:00                                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-07  8:03                                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-07  8:16                                                       ` Brian Swetland
2010-06-07 13:20                                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-07 18:40                                                       ` David Brownell
2010-06-07 23:17                                                       ` Linus Walleij
2010-06-07 23:37                                                         ` Brian Swetland
2010-06-08  2:15                                                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-06-09 12:33                                                     ` [linux-pm] " Mark Brown
2010-07-09 19:11                                                     ` HTC Dream drivers was " Pavel Machek
2010-06-06 13:31                                   ` Matthew Garrett
2010-06-06 15:26                                     ` Vitaly Wool
2010-06-06 15:29                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2010-06-06 15:47                                         ` Vitaly Wool
2010-06-06 16:43                                           ` Matthew Garrett
2010-06-06 17:21                                             ` Vitaly Wool
2010-06-06 17:31                                               ` Matthew Garrett
2010-06-06 19:01                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-07 10:25                                                 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-06-07 13:01                                               ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-07  0:01                                         ` Alan Stern
2010-06-07  1:07                                           ` [linux-pm] suspend blockers & Android integrationy Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-07 14:42                                             ` Alan Stern
2010-06-07 15:49                                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-07 15:56                                           ` [linux-pm] suspend blockers & Android integration Florian Mickler
2010-06-08  0:57                                           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-08  1:13                                             ` Alan Stern
2010-06-04  9:43     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-04  9:54       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-04 10:03         ` Ingo Molnar
2010-06-04 10:08           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-04 10:11             ` Brian Swetland
2010-06-04 10:11         ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-04 10:13           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-04 23:38       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-05  0:05         ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-05  0:39           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-05  1:18             ` Matt Helsley
2010-06-05  5:35               ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-05 18:25                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-05 22:10                   ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-05 23:03                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-06  1:03                       ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-06  2:49                         ` Alan Stern
2010-06-06 11:09                           ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-06-08  0:23                             ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-08  1:09                               ` Alan Stern
2010-06-08  1:31                                 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-08  2:32                                   ` Alan Stern
2010-06-08  3:05                                     ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-08 10:19                                       ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-08 14:50                                       ` Alan Stern
2010-06-09  1:48                                         ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-09 15:29                                           ` Alan Stern
2010-06-09 23:42                                             ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-10  4:21                                               ` david
2010-06-10  4:51                                                 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-10  5:10                                                   ` Neil Brown
2010-06-10 14:39                                                 ` Alan Stern
2010-06-10 14:28                                               ` Alan Stern
2010-06-10 23:02                                                 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-11  1:44                                                   ` Alan Stern
2010-06-11  3:16                                                     ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-11 14:33                                                       ` Alan Stern
2010-06-11 22:18                                                         ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-12 15:22                                                           ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-06-07 23:16                           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-06 13:29                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-05  1:33             ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-05  5:23               ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-05 16:47                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-05 21:47                   ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-05 22:11                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-05 23:21                       ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-05 23:39                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-06  0:04                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-06  1:16                           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-06 10:36                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-06 14:43                               ` Matt Helsley
2010-06-08  0:45                                 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-07 23:34                               ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-06 10:56                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-08  0:05                               ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-06  0:19                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-06  1:24                           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-06  0:32                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-06  1:45                           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-06 10:01                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-05 22:44                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-05 23:56                       ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-06 13:55                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-08  0:39                           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-08  9:11                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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