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From: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>
To: andrzej zaborowski <balrogg@gmail.com>
Cc: Daniel Stone <daniel.stone@nokia.com>,
	Lauri Leukkunen <lauri.leukkunen@nokia.com>,
	ext Felipe Balbi <me@felipebalbi.com>,
	felipe.balbi@nokia.com, linux-omap@vger.kernel.org,
	Eduardo Valentin <edubezval@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] I2C: LM8323: Introduce lm8323 keypad driver
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:02:09 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080414180209.GD26832@atomide.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fb249edb0804091812g77b6fc84x3312ea09c845ea3a@mail.gmail.com>

* andrzej zaborowski <balrogg@gmail.com> [080409 18:12]:
> On 10/04/2008, Daniel Stone <daniel.stone@nokia.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 01:58:51AM +0200, ext andrzej zaborowski wrote:
> >  > On 09/04/2008, Lauri Leukkunen <lauri.leukkunen@nokia.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > In my opinion kernel should provide "correct" data to user-space, not
> >  > >  some pseudo-random interference from the LCD.
> >  >
> >  > I think this is discutible.  There's a number of userspace libraries
> >  > written to talk tightly to the kernel and make that data more
> >  > "correct", one of them is tslib.  Distros that come with tslib often
> >  > have a set of device-specific config files for tslib which load tslib
> >  > plugins for things like averaging, smoothing, checking bounds on the
> >  > values.
> >  >
> >  > One of the arguments for doing that in userspace is that of avoiding
> >  > every touchscreen driver redoing the same averaging and/or limit
> >  > checking code.  I agree thought that it may be better to sacrifice
> >  > that for performance.
> >
> >
> > If everyone's doing the same thing, move it to drivers/input/, not to
> >  userspace.  Why should we be forced to have _two_ drivers and
> >  essentially maintain a stable kernel/userspace ABI between them? Surely
> >  it's better to only have _one_ hardware-specific driver, rather than
> >  half in the kernel, and half hidden behind an abstraction layer that is
> >  meant to let you just deal with input events without knowing stupid
> >  details about the hardware?
> 
> For the ease of reconfiguration for one thing, tslib is quite
> configurable with the plugins loaded by a config file.  The ABI you
> talk about is the same evdev ABI which is already stable.
> 
> Averaging doesn't just cancel the noise from LCD, just lessens it but
> there may be better things to do with it and the userspace already
> knows how to deal with that. So it expects the kernel driver to be
> more like a ADC driver.
> 
> Of course doing it in drivers/input/ as configured by board files,
> would also work if things were designed that way.

Where to do the filtering should be discussed with the input people.

Meanwhile, I'll push this patch to linux-omap tree.

Tony

  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-14 18:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-09 12:03 [PATCH 0/5] n810 drivers, take #3 Felipe Balbi
2008-04-09 12:04 ` [PATCH 1/5] I2C: LM8323: Introduce lm8323 keypad driver Felipe Balbi
2008-04-09 12:04   ` [PATCH 2/5] I2C: TSL2563: Add support for Taos tsl2563 ambient light sensor Felipe Balbi
2008-04-09 12:04     ` [PATCH 3/5] INPUT: TOUCHSCREEN: Introduce tsc2005 driver Felipe Balbi
2008-04-09 12:04       ` [PATCH 4/5] I2C: LP5521: Introduce lp5521 LED driver Felipe Balbi
2008-04-09 12:04         ` [PATCH 5/5] ARM: N800: Update n800 defconfig Felipe Balbi
2008-04-09 12:11   ` [PATCH 1/5] I2C: LM8323: Introduce lm8323 keypad driver Felipe Balbi
2008-04-09 17:26     ` andrzej zaborowski
2008-04-09 18:05       ` Felipe Balbi
2008-04-09 18:28         ` Lauri Leukkunen
2008-04-09 23:58           ` andrzej zaborowski
2008-04-10  0:12             ` Daniel Stone
2008-04-10  1:12               ` andrzej zaborowski
2008-04-14 18:02                 ` Tony Lindgren [this message]
2008-04-09 20:35         ` Daniel Stone
2008-04-10 13:18         ` andrzej zaborowski
2008-04-10 14:34           ` Felipe Balbi
2008-04-14 18:03 ` [PATCH 0/5] n810 drivers, take #3 Tony Lindgren
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-04-09 10:09 [PATCH 0/5] resend n810 drivers Felipe Balbi
2008-04-09 10:09 ` [PATCH 1/5] I2C: LM8323: Introduce lm8323 keypad driver Felipe Balbi
2008-04-09 10:54   ` Eduardo Valentin
2008-04-09 11:02     ` Daniel Stone
2008-04-09 11:33       ` Eduardo Valentin
2008-04-09 10:04 [PATCH 0/5] n810 drivers Felipe Balbi
2008-04-09 10:04 ` [PATCH 1/5] I2C: LM8323: Introduce lm8323 keypad driver Felipe Balbi

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