From: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>
To: andrzej zaborowski <balrogg@gmail.com>
Cc: Daniel Stone <daniel.stone@nokia.com>,
Lauri Leukkunen <lauri.leukkunen@nokia.com>,
ext Felipe Balbi <me@felipebalbi.com>,
felipe.balbi@nokia.com, linux-omap@vger.kernel.org,
Eduardo Valentin <edubezval@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] I2C: LM8323: Introduce lm8323 keypad driver
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:02:09 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080414180209.GD26832@atomide.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fb249edb0804091812g77b6fc84x3312ea09c845ea3a@mail.gmail.com>
* andrzej zaborowski <balrogg@gmail.com> [080409 18:12]:
> On 10/04/2008, Daniel Stone <daniel.stone@nokia.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 01:58:51AM +0200, ext andrzej zaborowski wrote:
> > > On 09/04/2008, Lauri Leukkunen <lauri.leukkunen@nokia.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > In my opinion kernel should provide "correct" data to user-space, not
> > > > some pseudo-random interference from the LCD.
> > >
> > > I think this is discutible. There's a number of userspace libraries
> > > written to talk tightly to the kernel and make that data more
> > > "correct", one of them is tslib. Distros that come with tslib often
> > > have a set of device-specific config files for tslib which load tslib
> > > plugins for things like averaging, smoothing, checking bounds on the
> > > values.
> > >
> > > One of the arguments for doing that in userspace is that of avoiding
> > > every touchscreen driver redoing the same averaging and/or limit
> > > checking code. I agree thought that it may be better to sacrifice
> > > that for performance.
> >
> >
> > If everyone's doing the same thing, move it to drivers/input/, not to
> > userspace. Why should we be forced to have _two_ drivers and
> > essentially maintain a stable kernel/userspace ABI between them? Surely
> > it's better to only have _one_ hardware-specific driver, rather than
> > half in the kernel, and half hidden behind an abstraction layer that is
> > meant to let you just deal with input events without knowing stupid
> > details about the hardware?
>
> For the ease of reconfiguration for one thing, tslib is quite
> configurable with the plugins loaded by a config file. The ABI you
> talk about is the same evdev ABI which is already stable.
>
> Averaging doesn't just cancel the noise from LCD, just lessens it but
> there may be better things to do with it and the userspace already
> knows how to deal with that. So it expects the kernel driver to be
> more like a ADC driver.
>
> Of course doing it in drivers/input/ as configured by board files,
> would also work if things were designed that way.
Where to do the filtering should be discussed with the input people.
Meanwhile, I'll push this patch to linux-omap tree.
Tony
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-14 18:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-04-09 12:03 [PATCH 0/5] n810 drivers, take #3 Felipe Balbi
2008-04-09 12:04 ` [PATCH 1/5] I2C: LM8323: Introduce lm8323 keypad driver Felipe Balbi
2008-04-09 12:04 ` [PATCH 2/5] I2C: TSL2563: Add support for Taos tsl2563 ambient light sensor Felipe Balbi
2008-04-09 12:04 ` [PATCH 3/5] INPUT: TOUCHSCREEN: Introduce tsc2005 driver Felipe Balbi
2008-04-09 12:04 ` [PATCH 4/5] I2C: LP5521: Introduce lp5521 LED driver Felipe Balbi
2008-04-09 12:04 ` [PATCH 5/5] ARM: N800: Update n800 defconfig Felipe Balbi
2008-04-09 12:11 ` [PATCH 1/5] I2C: LM8323: Introduce lm8323 keypad driver Felipe Balbi
2008-04-09 17:26 ` andrzej zaborowski
2008-04-09 18:05 ` Felipe Balbi
2008-04-09 18:28 ` Lauri Leukkunen
2008-04-09 23:58 ` andrzej zaborowski
2008-04-10 0:12 ` Daniel Stone
2008-04-10 1:12 ` andrzej zaborowski
2008-04-14 18:02 ` Tony Lindgren [this message]
2008-04-09 20:35 ` Daniel Stone
2008-04-10 13:18 ` andrzej zaborowski
2008-04-10 14:34 ` Felipe Balbi
2008-04-14 18:03 ` [PATCH 0/5] n810 drivers, take #3 Tony Lindgren
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-04-09 10:09 [PATCH 0/5] resend n810 drivers Felipe Balbi
2008-04-09 10:09 ` [PATCH 1/5] I2C: LM8323: Introduce lm8323 keypad driver Felipe Balbi
2008-04-09 10:54 ` Eduardo Valentin
2008-04-09 11:02 ` Daniel Stone
2008-04-09 11:33 ` Eduardo Valentin
2008-04-09 10:04 [PATCH 0/5] n810 drivers Felipe Balbi
2008-04-09 10:04 ` [PATCH 1/5] I2C: LM8323: Introduce lm8323 keypad driver Felipe Balbi
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