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From: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>
To: Igor Stoppa <igor.stoppa@nokia.com>
Cc: linux-omap@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] CBUS: Make retu watchdog behave like a standard Linux watchdog
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 18:17:36 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080513011736.GH28999@atomide.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1210639609.20589.13.camel@mort>

* Igor Stoppa <igor.stoppa@nokia.com> [080512 17:56]:
> Hi Tony,
> On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 17:35 -0700, ext Tony Lindgren wrote:
> > Make retu watchdog behave like a standard Linux watchdog.
> > 
> > Let the kernel do the kicking until the watchdog device is opened.
> 
> This is not always the desidered behavior: the powerdown wd is used to
> ensure that the whole sw stack is healty: doing the kicking in
> kernelspace for free introduces the case where userspace can get stuck
> and the device does not powerdown.

That's why there's CONFIG_WATCHDOG_NOWAYOUT where the ping timer is
not enabled at all, and the watchdog is just set to max until userspace
watchdog software kicking starts.

> Also the unconditional loading of the maximum value during probe is not
> aligned with the original reset logic, which was to have the powerdown
> wd to allow for 2 boot attempts:
> 
> -cold boot -> load max value in retu wd (63s)
>            -> load 30s in omap wd
> -try to kick both wds

Well you can set those values via /dev/watchdog too, right?
And then use CONFIG_WATCHDOG_NOWAYOUT.

And ff CONFIG_WATCHDOG_NOWAYOUT is not set, the kernel ping timer only
happens when /dev/watchdog is not open.

> if fail, then omap reboots, but retu keeps counting down
> 
> -warm boot -> let the retu wd untouched
>            -> load 30s in omap wd
> -try to kick both wds
> 
> if fail, retu powers down
> 
> That was the original idea in 770 times and i still like it.
> 
> To conclude, i'd see inkernel kicking more as a debugging feature while
> one is hacking at the kernel than a desirable quality of a stable
> kernel.

Considering that the /dev/watchdog interface is the standard, I see this
patch as the only way we can get this code ever merged upstream. And it's
easy to patch back the non-standard if you want to.

Tony
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  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-13  1:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-13  0:35 [PATCH 0/3] Retu watchdog clean-up and fix to make it behave Tony Lindgren
2008-05-13  0:35 ` [PATCH 1/3] CBUS: Fix retu mutex handling Tony Lindgren
2008-05-13  0:35   ` [PATCH 2/3] CBUS: Checkpatch.pl fixes for retu-wdt.c Tony Lindgren
2008-05-13  0:35     ` [PATCH 3/3] CBUS: Make retu watchdog behave like a standard Linux watchdog Tony Lindgren
2008-05-13  0:46       ` Igor Stoppa
2008-05-13  1:17         ` Tony Lindgren [this message]
2008-05-15 21:46           ` Tony Lindgren

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