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From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
To: Mikko Ylinen <mikko.k.ylinen@nokia.com>
Cc: me@felipebalbi.com, Felipe Balbi <felipe.balbi@nokia.com>,
	linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 9/9] i2c: move twl4030-madc to new registration style
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 09:13:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200810010913.25395.david-b@pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48E38745.8050800@nokia.com>

On Wednesday 01 October 2008, Mikko Ylinen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> David Brownell wrote:
> > A question that may well come up when this heads upstream:
> > why is this exporting a miscdev, for an ioctl, when this
> > could all be done using sysfs and hwmon rules?  That is,
> > was this the "appropriate" way to export ADC channels?
> 
> We could still do both, right?

Are you pointing out another question that may be raised?
Or asking me for an answer?  ;)

I *suspect* supporting both would be frowned on.  However,
the whole issue of how userspace sensor interaction should
work doesn't IMO have good answers yet.  It all depends on
polling -- no alert/alarm/interrupt framework, no streaming
of event data -- so apps newer than the stone age all need
to invent better interface models.


> > And a slightly more pragmatic question:  does Nokia have
> > tools that would break if this were switched to hwmon style?
> 
> We've used ioctl() mechanism to get ADC readings to user space quite
> some time already.
> 
> I believe this is still a better option compared with hwmon/sysfs
> approach (Reason: sometimes we do those readings very often and
> for many channels. Instead of doing all that fd magic and atoi(),
> we just call ioctl() to get raw ADC data available for further
> processing).

Sounds to me like that's a reason to expect the current
interface to stick around for a while ... and a use case
to push towards eventual "hwmon" improvements.

Although:  what's "very often"?  And why wouldn't library
code handle "all that fd magic"?

 
> >> How detailed information would you like to have here?
> > 
> > Enough to answer the question "what's a MADC?" for someone
> > who doesn't have TWL specs and hasn't read even any kind
> > of summary data sheet.  Three sentences would likely be
> > excessive; one good sentence might suffice.
> 
> Perhaps duplicate the comments we have in Kconfig to .c?

(Reads Kconfig comments.)  Yes, that'd be more than enough.
I think a number of those features aren't yet supported in
the driver though.  Maybe you should do that too.  ;)

- Dave

  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-01 16:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-26 11:19 [PATCH 0/9] twl4030 updates Felipe Balbi
2008-09-26 11:19 ` [PATCH 1/9] twl4030: fix potential null pointer dereference Felipe Balbi
2008-09-26 11:19   ` [PATCH 2/9] twl4030-gpio: Remove default pullup enable/disable of GPIO Felipe Balbi
2008-09-26 11:19     ` [PATCH 3/9] i2c: clean add_children a bit Felipe Balbi
2008-09-26 11:19       ` [PATCH 4/9] i2c: move twl4030_keypad to new style registration Felipe Balbi
2008-09-26 11:19         ` [PATCH 5/9] i2c: move twl4030-usb to platform_device Felipe Balbi
2008-09-26 11:19           ` [PATCH 6/9] i2c: twl4030-usb: add 'vbus' sysfs file Felipe Balbi
2008-09-26 11:19             ` [PATCH 7/9] twl4030 gpio platform data Felipe Balbi
2008-09-26 11:19               ` [PATCH 8/9] twl4030 uses gpiolib Felipe Balbi
2008-09-26 11:19                 ` [PATCH 9/9] i2c: move twl4030-madc to new registration style Felipe Balbi
2008-09-26 17:09                   ` David Brownell
2008-09-26 17:46                     ` Felipe Balbi
2008-09-27  7:37                       ` Mikko Ylinen
2008-09-27 15:04                         ` David Brownell
2008-09-27 15:40                           ` Steve Sakoman
2008-09-27 17:17                             ` David Brownell
2008-10-01 14:20                           ` Mikko Ylinen
2008-10-01 16:13                             ` David Brownell [this message]
2008-09-26 19:50                   ` David Brownell
2008-09-26 20:01                     ` Steve Sakoman
2008-09-26 17:10                 ` [PATCH 8/9] twl4030 uses gpiolib David Brownell
2008-09-26 17:47                   ` Felipe Balbi
2008-09-26 18:57                     ` David Brownell
2008-09-28  1:01           ` [PATCH 5/9] i2c: move twl4030-usb to platform_device David Brownell
2008-09-28  3:03             ` Felipe Balbi
2008-09-26 17:12 ` [PATCH 0/9] twl4030 updates David Brownell
2008-09-26 17:50   ` Felipe Balbi
2008-09-26 18:55     ` David Brownell
2008-09-26 19:00   ` David Brownell
2008-09-26 19:10     ` Steve Sakoman
2008-09-26 19:23       ` Felipe Balbi
2008-09-26 19:45       ` David Brownell
2008-09-27 19:14 ` David Brownell
2008-09-27 21:17   ` Felipe Balbi
2008-09-27 21:45     ` David Brownell
2008-09-27 21:46       ` Felipe Balbi
2008-09-27 21:41 ` [PATCH 11/9] move twl4030-gpio to drivers/gpio David Brownell
2008-09-27 22:29   ` Felipe Balbi
2008-09-27 23:09     ` Felipe Balbi
2008-09-27 23:45       ` David Brownell
2008-09-28  3:14         ` Felipe Balbi
2008-09-28  5:16           ` David Brownell
2008-10-01 13:46             ` Felipe Contreras
2008-10-01 13:52               ` Felipe Balbi
2008-10-01 15:58               ` David Brownell
2008-10-01 16:05                 ` Jean Delvare
2008-10-01 16:32                   ` David Brownell
2008-09-27 23:29     ` David Brownell

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