From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@sirena.org.uk>
Cc: Jarkko Nikula <jarkko.nikula@nokia.com>,
"Stanley.Miao" <stanley.miao@windriver.com>,
alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, linux-omap@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] OMAP general SOC driver.
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 12:44:33 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200811261244.33631.david-b@pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081126200750.GK6234@sirena.org.uk>
On Wednesday 26 November 2008, Mark Brown wrote:
> > I'm told that the ASoC stuff "should" go in a separate ASoC
> > area for some reason. That still makes no good sense to me,
> > so if there's a brief explanation as to why it's done that
> > way, please fling me a URL. :)
>
> The move is in the direction you want but we're not there yet. The fact
> that things are now decomposed enough for us to be able to think about
> it is a good sign here.
>
> The biggest part of it is that the degree of coupling between the
> various ASoC components is high - this is particularly obvious with v1
> where the entire card is probed at once. This includes coupling between
> the drivers and the core where the degree of churn is very high right
> now due to v2 merging. It doesn't feel right to give architectures an
> API that they can't rely on from one merge window to the next yet,
OK, that seems to be the key point. And it makes a lot of sense;
I wouldn't call the driver structure here "simple", so it deserves
some iteration on multiple disparate hardware platforms just to make
sure the interfaces is adequate to the problem.
Let me insert a minor plug from the PM perspective that it would be
good to find a way that the codecs can sit in the proper places in
the driver model tree. Example with twl4030: it's an I2C device
and thus should be a child of something like
/sys/devices/platform/i2c_omap.1/i2c-adapter/i2c-1/1-0049
to guarantee that for example nothing touches that codec after its
parent I2C controller gets suspended.
- Dave
> partly from the point of view of isolating the code for review purposes
> and also due to the merge issues which would doubtless crop up.
>
> Another part of it is that some machine drivers can get involved enough
> to sit on or cross the boundary from platform data to being drivers for
> substantial distinct hardware but that's very much not the case for
> everything.
>
> I've been spending time this week working on getting the ability to load
> platform and codec drivers independantly merged. That will at least
> allow the instantiation of the ASoC drivers for those to be pushed out
> into the architecture code, which is a start and should substantially
> reduce the size of most machine drivers. At the point where that's been
> done it's probably worth looking again at the simpler machine drivers.
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-11-26 20:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-11-26 10:47 [PATCH] OMAP general SOC driver Stanley.Miao
2008-11-26 11:08 ` Mark Brown
2008-11-26 11:40 ` Jarkko Nikula
2008-11-26 18:34 ` David Brownell
2008-11-26 20:07 ` Mark Brown
2008-11-26 20:20 ` Koen Kooi
2008-11-27 5:01 ` Arun KS
[not found] ` <6ed0b2680811270242i1b857f13i9494826f6089bf15@mail.gmail.com>
2008-11-27 12:36 ` Mark Brown
2008-11-26 20:33 ` David Brownell
2008-11-26 21:16 ` Mark Brown
2008-11-26 22:03 ` David Brownell
2008-11-27 12:39 ` stanley.miao
2008-11-26 20:44 ` David Brownell [this message]
2008-11-26 21:22 ` Mark Brown
2008-11-26 17:24 ` Steve Sakoman
2008-11-26 17:29 ` [alsa-devel] " Mark Brown
2008-11-26 15:53 ` Tony Lindgren
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