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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 22:40:19 -0400
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On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 02:36:26PM -0700, Brian Swetland wrote:
> 
> Mass market consumer devices that allow arbitrary app installation are
> a fun challenge because many (most?) users are not aware of the low
> level details here or why one app is bad and another is good.  They
> often don't even know which app of N they installed is causing their
> problems.

... and this was definitely a problem with Maemo devices that I played
with (N770, N800, et. al.).  You'd install 3 or 4 applications, then
start running without the power adapter permanently attached, and hey
surprise!  The battery would be drained very quickly even though the
device was "idle".  Figuring out which application was at fault was
basically done via brute force, which was not fun....

					- Ted