From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Florian Mickler Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 16:12:05 +0200 Message-ID: <20100603161205.73a2b56d@schatten.dmk.lab> References: <201005302202.39511.rjw@sisk.pl> <201005312347.24251.rjw@sisk.pl> <1275471561.27810.30865.camel@twins> <1275474088.27810.31000.camel@twins> <20100602221309.6da754e7@schatten.dmk.lab> <1275550802.27810.34863.camel@twins> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from ist.d-labs.de ([213.239.218.44]:33997 "EHLO mx01.d-labs.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753490Ab0FCOMR (ORCPT ); Thu, 3 Jun 2010 10:12:17 -0400 In-Reply-To: <1275550802.27810.34863.camel@twins> Sender: linux-omap-owner@vger.kernel.org List-Id: linux-omap@vger.kernel.org To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: Arve =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Hj=F8nnev=E5g?= , Thomas Gleixner , "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Matthew Garrett , Alan Stern , Paul@smtp1.linux-foundation.org, LKML , felipe.balbi@nokia.com, Linux OMAP Mailing List , Linux PM , Alan Cox On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 09:40:02 +0200 Peter Zijlstra wrote: > Same for firefox, you can teach it to not render animated gifs and run > javascript for invisible tabs, and once the screen-saver kicks in, > nothing is visible (and with X telling apps their window is visible or > not it knows), so it should go idle all of its own. > > Fix the friggin apps, don't kludge with freezing. Of course programs should be as smart as possible. But that is an orthogonal problem. Suppose firefox were fixed. It still needs to fetch my rss feeds every minute, because I'm sad if it doesn't. It just can't be fixed at the application level. Cheers, Flo