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From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
To: "Arve Hjønnevåg" <arve@android.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	tytso@mit.edu, Brian Swetland <swetland@google.com>,
	Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Felipe Balbi <felipe.balbi@nokia.com>,
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	Linux OMAP Mailing List <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux PM <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@suse.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Kevin Hilman <khilman@deeprootsystems.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: suspend blockers & Android integration
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 16:34:11 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100605163411.6c561fbf@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil0XV8EDK8WWody7f-L5ou4p_a3O_T6dTjWB12C@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, 5 Jun 2010 15:39:44 -0700
Arve Hjønnevåg <arve@android.com> wrote:

> >
> > For example if the Adobe Flash player puts a timer every 10
> > milliseconds (yes it does that), and you give it a 3.99 seconds
> > range, it will fire its timers every 4 seconds.... unless other
> > activity happens independently, at which point it'll align with
> > that instead.
> >
> 
> If you do that what you are delivering is nowhere close to what the
> app asked for. 

yeah it feels a little bit suspended 

> You don't need range timers for this, you could just as
> well add 4 seconds to all normal timers.

.. with the difference that with range timers, you naturally align with
other activity, so if there's system level activity, the AVERAGE service
the app gets is better by a LOT than just adding 4 seconds always.

but you knew that.... just doesn't help your case.



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  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-05 23:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 195+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-03 19:30 suspend blockers & Android integration Ingo Molnar
2010-06-03 19:50 ` Brian Swetland
2010-06-04  7:57   ` Ingo Molnar
2010-06-04  8:29     ` Brian Swetland
2010-06-04  8:55       ` Ingo Molnar
2010-06-04  9:03         ` Pekka Enberg
2010-06-04  9:08         ` Brian Swetland
2010-06-04  9:59           ` Ingo Molnar
2010-06-04 10:09             ` Brian Swetland
2010-06-04 14:24             ` James Bottomley
2010-06-04 15:07               ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-06  8:04           ` david
2010-06-10 13:58       ` Pavel Machek
2010-06-11  4:21         ` [linux-pm] " David Brownell
2010-06-11 14:28           ` James Bottomley
2010-06-11 14:46             ` Alan Stern
2010-06-11 15:01               ` Mark Brown
2010-06-11 15:02               ` James Bottomley
2010-06-11 20:48                 ` Alan Stern
2010-06-11 21:04                   ` James Bottomley
2010-06-12 17:10                   ` Mark Brown
2010-06-12  2:43             ` David Brownell
2010-06-11 14:42           ` Alan Stern
     [not found] ` <20100603231153.GA11302@elte.hu>
2010-06-03 23:23   ` Ingo Molnar
2010-06-03 23:37     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-03 23:46       ` Ingo Molnar
2010-06-04  2:16         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-04  2:26           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-04  3:45             ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-06-04  4:46               ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-04 10:42                 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-04  8:15               ` Ingo Molnar
2010-06-06  8:16               ` david
2010-06-06  8:23             ` david
2010-06-04  3:45           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-04  6:22           ` Ingo Molnar
2010-06-04  8:11           ` Ingo Molnar
2010-06-05 20:37           ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-04  0:39     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-06-04 14:50       ` Alan Stern
2010-06-04  4:38     ` Neil Brown
2010-06-04  4:54     ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-04  7:13       ` Ingo Molnar
2010-06-04  7:37         ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-04  8:34           ` Ingo Molnar
2010-06-04  8:56             ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-04 12:06               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-05  0:10                 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-05  9:54                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-05 16:28                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-06-05 21:26                       ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-05 22:23                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-06-05 22:26                           ` Brian Swetland
2010-06-05 22:48                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-06-05 23:45                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-06  0:34                               ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-05 22:52                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-05 22:39                           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-05 23:34                             ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2010-06-06  0:02                               ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-06 11:18                           ` Felipe Contreras
2010-06-06 11:26                             ` david
2010-06-06  7:52                         ` [linux-pm] " Vitaly Wool
2010-06-06  8:20                           ` Brian Swetland
2010-06-06  8:32                             ` Vitaly Wool
2010-06-06  9:21                               ` Brian Swetland
2010-06-06  9:56                                 ` david
2010-06-06 11:11                                   ` Felipe Contreras
2010-06-06 10:00                                 ` Vitaly Wool
2010-06-06 10:12                                   ` david
2010-06-06 10:19                                     ` [linux-pm] " Vitaly Wool
2010-06-06 10:49                                       ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-06 10:57                                         ` Vitaly Wool
2010-06-06 11:14                                         ` [linux-pm] " david
2010-06-07 12:16                                           ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-09  1:14                                             ` david
2010-06-09  3:46                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-09  7:43                                                 ` [linux-pm] " Felipe Contreras
2010-06-09  9:40                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-09 22:04                                                     ` Neil Brown
2010-06-10  8:59                                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-10 12:00                                                         ` Neil Brown
2010-06-10 16:06                                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-10 13:57                                                         ` Mark Brown
2010-06-10 15:46                                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-10 19:01                                                             ` Mark Brown
2010-06-10 14:47                                                         ` Alan Stern
2010-06-10 15:44                                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-06 10:46                                   ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-06 11:05                                     ` Alan Cox
2010-06-06 13:34                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2010-06-06 14:31                                       ` James Bottomley
2010-06-06 15:46                                         ` [linux-pm] " Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-06 17:08                                           ` James Bottomley
2010-06-06 18:04                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-06 18:44                                               ` Brian Swetland
2010-06-06 19:26                                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-06 19:05                                             ` [linux-pm] " Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-06 19:15                                               ` Brian Swetland
2010-06-06 19:24                                                 ` [linux-pm] " Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-06 19:58                                                   ` Brian Swetland
2010-06-06 22:26                                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-07  8:00                                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-07  8:03                                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-07  8:16                                                       ` Brian Swetland
2010-06-07 13:20                                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-07 18:40                                                       ` David Brownell
2010-06-07 23:17                                                       ` Linus Walleij
2010-06-07 23:37                                                         ` Brian Swetland
2010-06-08  2:15                                                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-06-09 12:33                                                     ` [linux-pm] " Mark Brown
2010-07-09 19:11                                                     ` HTC Dream drivers was " Pavel Machek
2010-06-06 13:31                                   ` Matthew Garrett
2010-06-06 15:26                                     ` Vitaly Wool
2010-06-06 15:29                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2010-06-06 15:47                                         ` Vitaly Wool
2010-06-06 16:43                                           ` Matthew Garrett
2010-06-06 17:21                                             ` Vitaly Wool
2010-06-06 17:31                                               ` Matthew Garrett
2010-06-06 19:01                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-07 10:25                                                 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-06-07 13:01                                               ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-07  0:01                                         ` Alan Stern
2010-06-07  1:07                                           ` [linux-pm] suspend blockers & Android integrationy Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-07 14:42                                             ` Alan Stern
2010-06-07 15:49                                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-07 15:56                                           ` [linux-pm] suspend blockers & Android integration Florian Mickler
2010-06-08  0:57                                           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-08  1:13                                             ` Alan Stern
2010-06-04  9:43     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-04  9:54       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-04 10:03         ` Ingo Molnar
2010-06-04 10:08           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-04 10:11             ` Brian Swetland
2010-06-04 10:11         ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-04 10:13           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-04 23:38       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-05  0:05         ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-05  0:39           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-05  1:18             ` Matt Helsley
2010-06-05  5:35               ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-05 18:25                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-05 22:10                   ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-05 23:03                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-06  1:03                       ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-06  2:49                         ` Alan Stern
2010-06-06 11:09                           ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-06-08  0:23                             ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-08  1:09                               ` Alan Stern
2010-06-08  1:31                                 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-08  2:32                                   ` Alan Stern
2010-06-08  3:05                                     ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-08 10:19                                       ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-08 14:50                                       ` Alan Stern
2010-06-09  1:48                                         ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-09 15:29                                           ` Alan Stern
2010-06-09 23:42                                             ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-10  4:21                                               ` david
2010-06-10  4:51                                                 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-10  5:10                                                   ` Neil Brown
2010-06-10 14:39                                                 ` Alan Stern
2010-06-10 14:28                                               ` Alan Stern
2010-06-10 23:02                                                 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-11  1:44                                                   ` Alan Stern
2010-06-11  3:16                                                     ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-11 14:33                                                       ` Alan Stern
2010-06-11 22:18                                                         ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-12 15:22                                                           ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-06-07 23:16                           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-06 13:29                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-05  1:33             ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-05  5:23               ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-05 16:47                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-05 21:47                   ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-05 22:11                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-05 23:21                       ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-05 23:39                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-06  0:04                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-06  1:16                           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-06 10:36                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-06 14:43                               ` Matt Helsley
2010-06-08  0:45                                 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-07 23:34                               ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-06 10:56                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-08  0:05                               ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-06  0:19                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-06  1:24                           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-06  0:32                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-06  1:45                           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-06 10:01                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-05 22:44                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-05 23:56                       ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-06 13:55                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-08  0:39                           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-08  9:11                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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