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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-omap@vger.kernel.org,
	Kevin Hilman <khilman@deeprootsystems.com>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH] PM: add synchronous runtime interface for interrupt handlers
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 00:30:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201010120030.36393.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1010111254430.2339-100000@netrider.rowland.org>

On Monday, October 11, 2010, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Sat, 9 Oct 2010, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> 
> > I wonder if we can do the "fast suspend" and "fast resume" under the
> > power.lock spinlock.  That would allow us to avoid some complications
> > related to RPM_RESUMING and RPM_SUSPENDING.  Namely,
> > if the device is flagged as "power.irq_safe", it will always suspend and
> > resume "atomically" under its power.lock spinlock.  Then, the status will
> > always be either RPM_ACTIVE or RPM_SUSPENDED (or RPM_ERROR,
> > which is uninteresting).
> 
> We could do this.  It has some disadvantages but they aren't terrible.
> 
> >  Also, if "fast suspend" doesn't change the device
> > parent's power.child_count, we won't need to worry about parents any more.
> 
> I don't know about that.  If the parent's child_count doesn't change 
> then the parent can never suspend.  Of course, if there is no parent or 
> the parent is disabled for runtime PM then this doesn't matter.

I think the recursive resuming of the parents is inherently nonatomic and
it shouldn't be done in the "fast suspend/resume" case.  So, I think it might
make sense to prevent the parent from ever suspending if children are supposed
to use the "fast" ops.

> > I'm still not sure what to do with _idle() in that case.
> 
> Clearly we should not hold the spinlock while running the runtime_idle
> callback.  That would make it impossible for the callback to ask for a
> suspend.

That's correct.

Thanks,
Rafael

  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-11 22:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-24  0:05 runtime_pm_get_sync() from ISR with IRQs disabled? Kevin Hilman
2010-09-24 15:13 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-09-24 18:54   ` Kevin Hilman
2010-09-24 20:04     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-09-27 13:57       ` Alan Stern
2010-09-27 20:00         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-09-27 20:39           ` Alan Stern
2010-09-27 21:09             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-09-28 14:55               ` Alan Stern
2010-09-28 18:19                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-09-30 18:25                   ` [PATCH] PM: add synchronous runtime interface for interrupt handlers Alan Stern
2010-09-30 20:15                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-09-30 21:42                       ` Alan Stern
2010-09-30 22:41                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-01 14:28                           ` Alan Stern
2010-10-01 21:23                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-02 14:12                               ` Alan Stern
2010-10-02 22:06                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-03 15:52                                   ` Alan Stern
2010-10-03 20:33                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-05 21:44                                 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-10-06 15:58                                   ` Alan Stern
2010-10-06 19:33                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-06 19:35                                     ` Kevin Hilman
2010-10-06 20:28                                       ` Alan Stern
2010-10-06 21:47                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-07 15:26                                           ` Alan Stern
2010-10-07 16:52                                             ` Kevin Hilman
2010-10-07 17:35                                               ` Alan Stern
2010-10-07 21:11                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-07 23:15                                                   ` Kevin Hilman
2010-10-07 23:37                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-07 23:55                                                       ` Kevin Hilman
2010-10-08 16:22                                                         ` Alan Stern
2010-10-08 21:04                                                           ` Kevin Hilman
2010-10-08 19:57                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-08 16:18                                                   ` Alan Stern
2010-10-08 19:53                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-09 11:09                                                       ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-11 17:00                                                         ` Alan Stern
2010-10-11 22:30                                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2010-11-19 15:45                                           ` [PATCH ver. 2] " Alan Stern
2010-11-20 12:56                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-11-20 16:59                                               ` Alan Stern
2010-11-20 19:41                                                 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-11-21 23:45                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-11-21 23:41                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-11-22 15:38                                                   ` Alan Stern
2010-11-22 23:01                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-11-23  3:19                                                       ` Alan Stern
2010-11-23 22:51                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-11-24  0:11                                                           ` Kevin Hilman
2010-11-24 16:43                                                             ` Alan Stern
2010-11-24 18:03                                                               ` Kevin Hilman
2010-11-24 14:56                                                           ` Alan Stern
2010-11-24 20:33                                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-11-25 15:52                                                               ` [PATCH ver. 3] " Alan Stern
2010-11-25 18:58                                                                 ` [linux-pm] " Oliver Neukum
2010-11-25 20:03                                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-11-26 22:23                                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-06 23:51                                         ` [PATCH] " Kevin Hilman
2010-09-30 22:02                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-01 14:12                       ` Alan Stern
2010-10-01 21:14                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-09-27 21:11             ` [linux-pm] runtime_pm_get_sync() from ISR with IRQs disabled? Kevin Hilman
2010-09-24 20:27     ` Alan Stern
2010-09-24 21:52       ` Kevin Hilman

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