public inbox for linux-omap@vger.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Thomas Renninger <trenn@suse.de>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>,
	Frank Eigler <fche@redhat.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Kevin Hilman <khilman@deeprootsystems.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, rjw@sisk.pl,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-trace-users@vger.kernel.org,
	Jean Pihet <jean.pihet@newoldbits.com>,
	Pierre Tardy <tardyp@gmail.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] PERF(kernel): Cleanup power events
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 16:51:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201010251651.53467.trenn@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CC58FFE.2050700@linux.intel.com>

On Monday 25 October 2010 16:11:10 Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> On 10/25/2010 5:55 AM, Thomas Renninger wrote:
> 
> 
> >> But the actual code does not actually deal with any 'state 0', does it?
> > It does. Not being idle is tracked by cpuidle driver as state 0
> > (arch independent):
> > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpuidle/state0/
> > halt/C1 on X86 is:
> > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpuidle/state1/
> > ...
> state0 is still OS idle!
Yes, I just realized that.
Which is very unfortunate.
The whole cpuidle stuff is based on ACPI C-states and
cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpuidle/state0/name
C0
is plain wrong if it's used as "poll idle" time.
C0 is defined as (in the ACPI spec):
----------
2.5 Processor Power State Definitions
C0 Processor Power State
While the processor is in this state, it executes instructions.
----------

> the API is just weird for this, from a userspace perspective
> 
> if the kernel picks this state 0 for the idle handler, the userspace app 
> gets
> two events
> 
> one for going to state 0 to enter the idle state
> one for going to state 0 to exit idle
> 
> but they're the exact same event in your API.
> 
> rather unpleasant from a userspace program perspective....
Yeah. But the re-definition of C0 being "Linux poll idle"
will confuse users as well. Not sure whether this should get
touched, though.

Thanks for clarification, I wasn't aware of that...

    Thomas

  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-25 14:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1287488171-25303-1-git-send-email-trenn@suse.de>
2010-10-19 11:36 ` [PATCH 1/3] PERF: Do not export power_frequency, but power_start event Thomas Renninger
2010-10-19 11:36 ` [PATCH 2/3] PERF(kernel): Cleanup power events Thomas Renninger
2010-10-25  6:54   ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-10-25  9:41     ` Thomas Renninger
2010-10-25 13:55       ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-10-25 14:36         ` Thomas Renninger
2010-10-25 14:45           ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-10-25 14:56             ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-25 15:48               ` Thomas Renninger
2010-10-25 16:00                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-10-25 23:32                   ` Thomas Renninger
2010-10-25  6:58   ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-10-25 10:04   ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-25 11:03     ` Thomas Renninger
2010-10-25 11:55       ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-25 12:55         ` Thomas Renninger
2010-10-25 14:11           ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-10-25 14:51             ` Thomas Renninger [this message]
2010-10-25 12:58         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-10-25 20:29           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-25 13:58       ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-10-25 20:33         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-25 23:33   ` [PATCH] PERF(kernel): Cleanup power events V2 Thomas Renninger
2010-10-26  1:09     ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-10-26  7:10     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-26  8:08       ` Jean Pihet
2010-10-26 11:21         ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-26 11:48           ` Thomas Renninger
2010-10-26 11:54             ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-26 13:17               ` Thomas Renninger
2010-10-26 13:35                 ` Thomas Renninger
2010-10-26 18:57             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-27  0:00               ` Thomas Renninger
2010-10-27  9:16                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-26  9:58       ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-10-26 10:19         ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-26 10:37       ` Thomas Renninger
2010-10-26 11:19         ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-26 19:01           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-26 15:32       ` Pierre Tardy
2010-10-26 16:04         ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-10-26 16:56           ` Pierre Tardy
2010-10-26 17:58             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-26 18:14               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-10-26 18:50                 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-10-26 21:33                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-10-26 22:20                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-26 22:39                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-27  0:46                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-10-27 10:22                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-27 12:21                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-10-27 21:43                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-26 19:04                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-26 21:38                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-10-26 22:22                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-26 18:15               ` Pierre Tardy
2010-10-26 19:08                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-26 20:23                   ` Pierre Tardy
2010-10-26 20:38                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-26 20:52                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-10-26 21:17                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-26  7:59     ` Jean Pihet
2010-10-26 18:52     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-19 11:36 ` [PATCH 3/3] PERF(userspace): Adjust perf timechart to the new power events Thomas Renninger
2010-10-26  0:18   ` [PATCH] PERF(userspace): Adjust perf timechart to the new power events V2 Thomas Renninger
2010-10-28  9:02 Cleanup and enhance power trace events Thomas Renninger
2010-10-28  9:02 ` [PATCH 2/3] PERF(kernel): Cleanup power events Thomas Renninger
2010-10-28 11:17   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-28 11:31     ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-28 11:37       ` Thomas Renninger

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=201010251651.53467.trenn@suse.de \
    --to=trenn@suse.de \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=arjan@linux.intel.com \
    --cc=fche@redhat.com \
    --cc=fweisbec@gmail.com \
    --cc=jean.pihet@newoldbits.com \
    --cc=khilman@deeprootsystems.com \
    --cc=linux-omap@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=linux-trace-users@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com \
    --cc=mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com \
    --cc=mingo@elte.hu \
    --cc=peterz@infradead.org \
    --cc=rjw@sisk.pl \
    --cc=rostedt@goodmis.org \
    --cc=tardyp@gmail.com \
    --cc=tglx@linutronix.de \
    --cc=tj@kernel.org \
    --cc=torvalds@linux-foundation.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox