From: Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
To: Clemens Ladisch <clemens@ladisch.de>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
sakari.ailus@maxwell.research.nokia.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
lennart@poettering.net, linux-omap@vger.kernel.org,
linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH v6 03/12] media: Entities, pads and links
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 13:41:35 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101125134135.GB24208@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CEE2E7D.6060608@ladisch.de>
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 10:38:05AM +0100, Clemens Ladisch wrote:
> In USB and HD audio devices, all links are immutable, and the routing
> is controlled by 'selector' entities that activate exactly one of their
> input pads. In userspace, this entity shows up as a mixer control.
> I guess it would be possible to map the ACTIVE flag onto these controls.
Ditto for ASoC, mostly.
> Alternatively, entities can have 'mute' mixer controls associated with
> their pads. In this case, multiple unmuted inputs would be mixed
> together.
> ALSA has PCM and MIDI devices, and several types of mixer controls.
> (It also has hardware dependent and timer devices, but I don't think
> these would need topology information.) So we need at least these:
> MEDIA_ENTITY_TYPE_NODE_ALSA_PCM
> MEDIA_ENTITY_TYPE_NODE_ALSA_MIDI
> MEDIA_ENTITY_TYPE_SUBDEV_ALSA_CONTROL
> Furthermore, topology information is also needed for entities not
> associated with a mixer control, such as microphones, speakers, jacks/
> connectors, and effect units. These entities are defined in the USB and
> HD audio specifications, but are not yet handled by ALSA.
All this and more in the embedded case - digital audio link nodes and DSP
I/O nodes (could possibly do those as digital audio ones) spring to
mind. Also bear in mind that embedded devices can get *very* large - a
mobile phone audio system can have of the order of 100 nodes in the
graph.
> ALSA devices are not addressed by their device node but with card/device/
> subdevice numbers; mixer controls have numeric IDs, unique per card:
>
> struct {
> int card;
> int device;
> int subdevice;
> } alsa_device;
> struct {
> int card;
> int numid;
> } alsa_control;
For the embedded stuff we also have a bunch of stuff in the graph which
may not be visible to userspace at all at present and would just have a
string based identifier.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-11-25 13:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-25 2:28 [RFC/PATCH v6 00/12] Media controller (core and V4L2) Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 2:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 01/12] media: Media device node support Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 2:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 02/12] media: Media device Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 9:33 ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-11-25 14:42 ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 2:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 03/12] media: Entities, pads and links Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 9:38 ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-11-25 13:41 ` Mark Brown [this message]
2010-11-25 15:29 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 03/12] [alsa-devel] " Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 15:35 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 03/12] " Mark Brown
2010-11-25 15:21 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 03/12] [alsa-devel] " Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 15:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 03/12] " Mark Brown
2010-11-26 9:10 ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-12-13 16:10 ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-12-14 12:00 ` [alsa-devel] " Laurent Pinchart
2010-12-14 12:40 ` Hans Verkuil
2010-12-14 12:53 ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-12-14 13:49 ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-12-14 23:50 ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-12-21 16:49 ` [alsa-devel] " Hans Verkuil
2010-12-14 13:31 ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-12-14 13:54 ` Takashi Iwai
2010-12-14 14:25 ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-12-14 15:30 ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-12-14 14:51 ` [alsa-devel] " Hans Verkuil
2010-12-14 14:57 ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-12-14 14:49 ` [alsa-devel] " Sakari Ailus
2010-11-25 13:36 ` Mark Brown
2010-11-25 15:40 ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 15:49 ` Mark Brown
2010-11-26 14:13 ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-26 14:14 ` Mark Brown
2010-11-28 12:34 ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-28 15:57 ` Hans Verkuil
2010-11-25 2:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 04/12] media: Entity graph traversal Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 2:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 05/12] media: Reference count and power handling Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 13:49 ` Mark Brown
2010-11-25 15:43 ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 17:49 ` Sakari Ailus
2010-11-25 21:47 ` Mark Brown
2010-11-28 12:33 ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-28 18:25 ` Mark Brown
2010-11-25 2:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 06/12] media: Media device information query Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 2:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 07/12] media: Entities, pads and links enumeration Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 2:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 08/12] media: Links setup Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 2:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 09/12] media: Entity locking and pipeline management Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 13:53 ` Mark Brown
2010-11-25 15:47 ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 2:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 10/12] v4l: Add a media_device pointer to the v4l2_device structure Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 2:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 11/12] v4l: Make video_device inherit from media_entity Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 11:38 ` Hans Verkuil
2010-11-25 14:37 ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 2:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 12/12] v4l: Make v4l2_subdev " Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 14:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 00/12] Media controller (core and V4L2) Mark Brown
2010-11-26 14:07 ` Laurent Pinchart
[not found] ` <201012031119.36771.laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
[not found] ` <201012031306.18520.hverkuil@xs4all.nl>
2010-12-03 13:50 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 03/12] media: Entities, pads and links Laurent Pinchart
2010-12-03 14:54 ` Mark Brown
2010-12-07 17:13 ` Hans Verkuil
2010-12-07 17:55 ` Mark Brown
2010-12-07 18:11 ` Hans Verkuil
2010-12-07 19:03 ` Mark Brown
2010-12-09 12:53 ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-12-10 16:35 ` Sakari Ailus
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