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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Paul Walmsley <paul@pwsan.com>
Cc: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>,
	Kevin Hilman <khilman@ti.com>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Felipe Balbi <balbi@ti.com>, "Cousson, Benoit" <b-cousson@ti.com>,
	"G, Manjunath Kondaiah" <manjugk@ti.com>,
	"devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org"
	<devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>,
	Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>,
	linux-omap <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>,
	Sascha Hauer <kernel@pengutronix.de>,
	Amit Kucheria <amit.kucheria@canonical.com>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: How to handle named resources with DT?
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 19:16:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201108291916.52571.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1108271306500.23968@utopia.booyaka.com>

On Saturday 27 August 2011, Paul Walmsley wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Aug 2011, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> 
> > Right, and I guess we can simply ignore DMA and ioport resources because 
> > they are extremely rare, right?
> 
> DMA resources are quite widely used.
> 
> For example, looking at the SoCs with some publicly-available 
> documentation, the Motorola i.MX51 reference manual lists 47 SDMA request 
> lines across about 17 different IP block types[1], and to pick a 
> representative OMAP, the OMAP3430 technical reference manual lists 77 SDMA 
> request lines, used by at least 9 different IP block types[2].
> 
> Also, many IP blocks have multiple DMA resources.  For example, the above 
> references list UART, MCSPI, PATA, I2C, FIRI, MCBSP, SSI, CTI, CSPI, 
> eCSPI, EMI, eSDHC, SPI, and DSS.

I don't doubt that many devices have a DMA controllers with multiple
channels, but I think the last time we discussed those, the conclusion
was that they should not actually be represented as DMA resources.

The problem with DMA resources is that they assume the presence of
a global number space for DMA channel numbers, while in reality a
lot of devices have multiple DMA controllers that have independent
channel numbers.

We should have a proper device tree binding for dma-controllers that
enables us to find both the channel and the controller in a simple
dma-controller API call without having to resort to global numbers.

In a way that is the same with IRQ numbers, however the concept of
a global number space for interrupt lines is used in so many places
in the kernel that we can't reasonably move away from that. For
dma-engine drivers, the concept does not exist in a driver-independent
way and we should not introduce it.

	Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-29 17:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-09  9:23 How to handle named resources with DT? Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-09 16:29 ` G, Manjunath Kondaiah
2011-08-09 16:57   ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-09 17:23     ` Grant Likely
2011-08-09 17:47       ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-09 17:52         ` Matt Porter
2011-08-09 18:26         ` Scott Wood
2011-08-09 20:57           ` Grant Likely
     [not found]             ` <20110809205723.GE11568-e0URQFbLeQY2iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-09 21:08               ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-09 21:17                 ` Grant Likely
2011-08-09 21:44                   ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-09 21:49                     ` Grant Likely
2011-08-09 21:53                       ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-10  1:52                         ` David Gibson
2011-08-10  7:11                           ` Paul Walmsley
     [not found]                           ` <20110810015214.GD23511-787xzQ0H9iQXU02nzanrWNbf9cGiqdzd@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-10 15:01                             ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-10 15:18                           ` Scott Wood
     [not found]                             ` <4E42A14B.9050308-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-10 15:21                               ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-10 19:22                           ` Grant Likely
2011-08-10 19:57                             ` David Brown
2011-08-10 20:12                               ` Grant Likely
2011-08-11 12:28                             ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-12  3:02                               ` David Gibson
     [not found]                                 ` <20110812030218.GP30552-787xzQ0H9iQXU02nzanrWNbf9cGiqdzd@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-12  8:14                                   ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-12  8:41                                 ` Felipe Balbi
     [not found]                                   ` <20110812084106.GC19467-UiBtZHVXSwEVvW8u9ZQWYwjfymiNCTlR@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-12 14:35                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-08-12 15:09                                       ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-12 17:21                                         ` Grant Likely
2011-08-24 19:15                                           ` Kevin Hilman
2011-08-24 23:16                                             ` Felipe Balbi
     [not found]                                               ` <20110824231613.GC19890-UiBtZHVXSwEVvW8u9ZQWYwjfymiNCTlR@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-25 10:28                                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                                                   ` <20110825102824.GB10405-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-25 15:05                                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-08-25 18:16                                                       ` Kevin Hilman
2011-08-25 21:02                                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-08-26 11:01                                                           ` Removing platform_get_resource_byname() (was Re: How to handle named resources with DT?) Paul Walmsley
2011-08-26  4:12                                                         ` How to handle named resources with DT? David Gibson
     [not found]                                                           ` <20110826041200.GD2308-787xzQ0H9iQXU02nzanrWNbf9cGiqdzd@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-26 10:58                                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-08-26 13:06                                                               ` David Gibson
2011-08-26 15:35                                                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                                                                   ` <201108261735.55412.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-26 15:41                                                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-08-27 14:37                                                                       ` David Gibson
2011-08-27 18:13                                                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-08-27 19:31                                                                           ` Paul Walmsley
2011-08-29 17:16                                                                             ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2011-08-28  8:39                                                                           ` David Gibson
2011-08-28 23:06                                                                             ` Paul Walmsley
     [not found]                                                                               ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1108281100150.23968-rwI8Ez+7Ko+d5PgPZx9QOdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-28 23:43                                                                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-08-29  1:57                                                                               ` Paul Walmsley
2011-08-29 17:18                                                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-08-27 21:47                                                                 ` Paul Walmsley
     [not found]                                                                   ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1108271444240.23968-rwI8Ez+7Ko+d5PgPZx9QOdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-29 21:54                                                                     ` Mark Brown
2011-08-26 14:13                                                               ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-30  2:29                                                                 ` David Gibson
2011-08-30  9:27                                                                   ` Felipe Balbi
     [not found]                                                                     ` <20110830092722.GG23907-UiBtZHVXSwEVvW8u9ZQWYwjfymiNCTlR@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-31  2:32                                                                       ` David Gibson
2011-08-27 20:00                                                               ` Paul Walmsley
2011-08-25 17:38                                                   ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-09 21:52                     ` Scott Wood
2011-08-09 20:55         ` Grant Likely
2011-08-09 21:06           ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-09 21:16             ` Grant Likely
2011-08-09 21:37               ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-12  4:10                 ` Shawn Guo
2011-08-12  8:56                   ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-12 11:47                     ` Shawn Guo
2011-08-12 14:40                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-08-10  1:29       ` David Gibson
2011-08-10  6:08         ` Paul Walmsley
2011-08-09 19:51 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-08-09 20:59   ` Cousson, Benoit

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