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From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Andy Green <andy.green@linaro.org>
Cc: stern@rowland.harvard.edu, linux-omap@vger.kernel.org,
	keshava_mgowda@ti.com, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, balbi@ti.com,
	rogerq@ti.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/5] drivers : introduce device_path api
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 11:27:28 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121126192728.GA24510@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121126192206.GB11239@kroah.com>

On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 11:22:06AM -0800, Greg KH wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:45:34PM +0000, Andy Green wrote:
> > This adds a small optional API into drivers/base which deals with generating,
> > matching and registration of wildcard device paths.
> > 
> > >From a struct device * you can generate a string like
> > 
> >  /platform/usbhs_omap/ehci-omap.0/usb1/1-1
> > 
> > which enapsulates the path of the device's connection to the board.
> > 
> > These can be used to match up other assets, for example struct regulators,
> > that have been registed elsewhere with a device instance that is probed
> > asynchronously from the other board assets.
> > 
> > If your device is on a bus, as it probably is, the device path will feature
> > redundant bus indexes that do not contain information about the connectivity.
> 
> Huh?  A bus "index" does show the connectivity, well, one type of
> connectivity, but perhaps it's not the one _you_ happen to want at the
> moment.  Which is fine, but I don't see why you want to try to figure
> this out using the device path in the first place, surely you have some
> other way that the hardware can describe itself to the kernel as to
> where it needs to be hooked up to?
> 
> > For example if more than one driver can generate devices on the same bus,
> > then the ordering of device probing will change the path, despite the
> > connectivity remains the same.
> 
> That's an expected thing, I don't see the issue here.
> 
> > For that reason, to get a deterministic path for matching, wildcards are
> > allowed.  If your target device has the path
> 
> Wait, no, why would you want a deterministic path and have that
> hard-coded into the kernel here?  You can't rely on that any more than
> userspace can, so let's not start making the mistake that lots of
> userspace programmers originally did when they started using sysfs
> please.  We have learned from our past mistakes.
> 
> >  /platform/usbhs_omap/ehci-omap.0/usb1/1-1

Oh, and further proof of this, there are patches floating around to drop
the "platform" name from the sys/drivers/ tree, so your driver just
broke if that goes through, showing you really don't want to be
hard-coding sysfs paths in any type of logic.

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-26 19:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-26 12:45 [RFC PATCH 0/5] Device Paths introduced and applied to generic hub and panda Andy Green
2012-11-26 12:45 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] drivers : introduce device_path api Andy Green
2012-11-26 19:12   ` Alan Stern
     [not found]     ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1211261348310.2168-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-26 23:26       ` Andy Green
     [not found]   ` <20121126124534.18106.44137.stgit-Ak/hGR4SqtBG2qbu2SEcwgC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-26 19:16     ` Greg KH
     [not found]       ` <20121126191612.GA11239-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-26 23:28         ` Andy Green
2012-11-26 19:22   ` Greg KH
2012-11-26 19:27     ` Greg KH [this message]
2012-11-26 21:07     ` Alan Stern
2012-11-26 22:50       ` Greg KH
     [not found]       ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1211261555400.2168-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-27  0:02         ` Andy Green
     [not found]           ` <50B40320.2020206-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-27 16:37             ` Alan Stern
2012-11-27 17:44               ` Andy Green
     [not found]                 ` <50B4FBE9.5080301-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-27 18:09                   ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                     ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1211271253230.1489-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-27 19:22                       ` Andy Green
2012-11-27 20:10                         ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                           ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1211271446430.1489-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-28  2:30                             ` Andy Green
     [not found]                         ` <50B51313.2060003-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-28 11:13                           ` Roger Quadros
2012-11-28 11:47                             ` Andy Green
2012-11-28 12:45                               ` Roger Quadros
2012-11-28 16:43                             ` Alan Stern
2012-11-29  2:05                               ` Ming Lei
2012-11-29 17:05                                 ` Alan Stern
2012-11-27  3:41       ` Ming Lei
2012-11-27 16:30         ` Alan Stern
     [not found]           ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1211271119380.1489-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-27 17:02             ` Greg KH
2012-12-01  7:49               ` Jassi Brar
2012-12-01  8:37                 ` Andy Green
     [not found]                   ` <50B9C1B0.3080605-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-12-01 18:08                     ` Jassi Brar
     [not found]                 ` <CABb+yY3TC3z+jRU91KGX+FKLtJ3ZXUp55-wM_KjxiYuVZ+LL+Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-12-05 14:09                   ` Roger Quadros
     [not found]                     ` <50BF55B3.1030205-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2012-12-06 14:34                       ` Jassi Brar
2012-12-10  9:48                         ` Roger Quadros
     [not found]                           ` <50C5B003.9060904-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2012-12-10 14:36                             ` Felipe Balbi
2012-12-11  9:12                           ` Jassi Brar
     [not found]                             ` <CABb+yY3u2QB0JqXrznDGHXqH3crkYk54whC0GTwkBHqjdEzhbg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-12-11 10:01                               ` Roger Quadros
     [not found]                                 ` <50C70495.40500-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2012-12-11 10:09                                   ` Felipe Balbi
2012-11-27 17:22           ` Ming Lei
2012-11-27 17:55             ` Andy Green
     [not found]               ` <50B4FE7D.9030505-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-27 23:06                 ` Ming Lei
2012-11-28  1:16                   ` Ming Lei
2012-11-26 23:47     ` Andy Green
     [not found] ` <20121126123427.18106.4112.stgit-Ak/hGR4SqtBG2qbu2SEcwgC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-26 12:45   ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] usb: omap ehci: remove all regulator control from ehci omap Andy Green
2012-11-26 12:45 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] usb: hub: add device_path regulator control to generic hub Andy Green
2012-11-26 19:23   ` Greg KH
2012-11-26 12:45 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] omap4: panda: add smsc95xx regulator and reset dependent on root hub Andy Green
2012-11-26 16:20   ` Roger Quadros
2012-11-27  0:17     ` Andy Green
2012-11-26 12:45 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] config omap2plus add ehci bits Andy Green

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