From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@denx.de>
Cc: Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>,
"Fernandes, Joel A" <joelagnel@ti.com>,
Grant Likely <glikely@secretlab.ca>,
linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org, tony@atomide.com,
Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>,
u-boot@lists.denx.de, Joel A Fernandes <agnel.joel@gmail.com>,
"Rini, Tom" <trini@ti.com>,
Linux OMAP List <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux ARM Kernel List <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Kbuild support for ARM FIT images
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:44:26 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130318164426.GI30923@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130318163648.GA3722@amd.pavel.ucw.cz>
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 05:36:53PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> On Fri 2013-02-22 08:00:44, Olof Johansson wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 07:37:10PM -0600, Joel A Fernandes wrote:
> > > Any comments on this approach? Is it better to merge mkfitsrc.sh with
> > > mkuboot.sh?
> >
> > I know this was discussed quite extensively yesterday, but here is my take on
> > it:
> >
> > Given the recent complications from multiplatform, we really saw a strong
> > reason to _not_ do the final boot wrapping in the kernel build system.
> > Produce the zImage and the DTB files, and have a surrounding script that
> > bundles the two in a format that your particular device needs.
> >
> > Most distros have scripts to handle the "make install" step of a kernel build.
> > That's where this belongs, not in the actual build step.
>
> Not sure I agree here:
>
> 1) zImage was designed to boot from floppy, without any kind of
> bootloader on i386
zImage on x86 != zImage on ARM.
They only share the fact that they're both compressed and self-extracting.
ARM has never supported any kind of floppy based boot - mainly because
floppies have never been "executable" like they are on x86; all that
previous boot loaders ever did was load the kernel into RAM using some
method and call address 0, with a data structure (formerly struct
params, later atags) at a fixed address, later passing that address to
the kernel.
The best floppies got was being able to run a script or load an executable
off the floppy under the ROM'd OS, and our zImage itself doesn't fit the
format required for that.
Our zImage has always been just a pure straight binary compressed kernel
format. Nothing more.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-03-18 16:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-02-21 1:37 [RFC] Kbuild support for ARM FIT images Joel A Fernandes
2013-02-21 4:26 ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-21 7:15 ` Joel A Fernandes
2013-02-21 18:58 ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-21 19:18 ` Tom Rini
2013-02-21 13:29 ` Tom Rini
2013-02-21 19:03 ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-21 10:37 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-21 13:20 ` Tom Rini
2013-02-21 13:46 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-21 14:08 ` Tom Rini
2013-02-21 14:37 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-21 14:46 ` Tom Rini
2013-02-21 17:25 ` [U-Boot] " Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-21 17:40 ` Tom Rini
2013-02-21 19:21 ` [U-Boot] " Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-21 19:37 ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-21 19:57 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-02-21 20:05 ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-21 20:18 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-02-21 21:18 ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-22 0:10 ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-22 0:39 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-22 20:48 ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-21 18:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-21 19:08 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-21 20:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-21 19:57 ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-21 21:14 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-21 22:05 ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-21 23:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-21 23:50 ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-22 0:19 ` Scott Wood
2013-02-22 2:39 ` [U-Boot] " Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-22 0:27 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-22 0:41 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-22 2:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-21 23:18 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-02-21 23:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-22 0:19 ` Rob Herring
2013-02-22 2:22 ` [U-Boot] " Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-22 3:32 ` Rob Herring
2013-02-22 7:56 ` Jason Kridner
2013-02-22 17:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-22 6:55 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-02-21 23:45 ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-22 0:29 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-21 20:56 ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-02-21 17:37 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-02-21 18:33 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-23 8:38 ` Joel A Fernandes
2013-02-22 16:00 ` Olof Johansson
2013-03-18 16:36 ` Pavel Machek
2013-03-18 16:44 ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2013-03-18 17:49 ` Pavel Machek
2013-03-18 17:57 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-03-18 18:04 ` Pavel Machek
2013-03-18 18:14 ` [U-Boot] " Stephen Warren
2013-03-18 19:57 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-03-18 19:51 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-03-18 18:29 ` [U-Boot] " Tom Rini
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