From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker-CWA4WttNNZF54TAoqtyWWQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>,
"Thierry Reding"
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"Thomas Petazzoni" <thomas.petazzoni@fr>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/10] drivers/pci: avoid module_init in non-modular host/pci*
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 14:31:02 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160108203102.GH5354@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151215151624.GB2772-CWA4WttNNZF54TAoqtyWWQ@public.gmane.org>
On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 10:16:24AM -0500, Paul Gortmaker wrote:
> [Re: [PATCH 00/10] drivers/pci: avoid module_init in non-modular host/pci*] On 14/12/2015 (Mon 11:27) Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>
> > On Monday 14 December 2015 10:19:40 Thierry Reding wrote:
> > > > PCIe host driver that use fixup (DECLARE_PCI_FIXUP_*) can't use tristate.
> > > > Fixup region is in kernel region and this region if not updated when
> > > > loading a module.
> > >
> > > Interesting, I hadn't thought about that. I suppose this means that the
> > > module will end up containing an unused section with the fixup code. It
> > > might be useful to add a way for that to trigger a warning at build
> > > time.
> > >
> > > Perhaps to fix this a mechanism could be introduced to add a table of
> > > fixups to a host controller driver and that will get applied to all
> > > children of the bridge. It could be problematic to cover all of the
> > > different fixup stages, though.
> >
> > I think a lot of the fixups shouldn't really be there in the first place,
> > they are about stuff that we can fix up in the probe function, or that should
> > be fixed up in the probe function with some appropriate core support added.
>
> So, the feedback on this is a bit all over the map, leaving me unsure
> what to do next. And is the choice we make on a per board/bsp basis or
> ideally across all platforms? I see the choices as:
>
> 1) do nothing; which IMHO is least desirable as it leaves the code
> misrepresenting itself as modular; one of the key issues I wanted to fix
>
> 2) use the patches I've sent ; then as they are genuinely made modular,
> the person doing so essentially "patch -R" or reverts the change as
> step one. This has the advantage of solving the "we'll get to it
> someday" issue if someday never comes.
>
> 3) make them all tristate; beat it with a stick until it compiles [M]
> and modposts -- leaving the fixups and functional testing to people with
> the boards and low level knowledge to make it _work_ as a module. The
> downside here is the code is still kind of misrepresenting itself as
> modularly functional -- a ban of unloading might mitigate that some.
I'd like to preserve the mind-set that host controller drivers are
*expected* to be modular, even if we aren't there yet. I guess that
means I'm in favor of option 3, at least for drivers that don't use
fixups.
Bjorn
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Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-12-13 1:41 [PATCH 00/10] drivers/pci: avoid module_init in non-modular host/pci* Paul Gortmaker
2015-12-13 1:41 ` [PATCH 04/10] drivers/pci: make host/pci-dra7xx.c explicitly non-modular Paul Gortmaker
[not found] ` <1449970917-12633-1-git-send-email-paul.gortmaker-CWA4WttNNZF54TAoqtyWWQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-14 8:19 ` [PATCH 00/10] drivers/pci: avoid module_init in non-modular host/pci* Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-12-14 8:24 ` Thierry Reding
2015-12-14 8:26 ` Michal Simek
2015-12-14 8:33 ` Ley Foon Tan
2015-12-14 9:19 ` Thierry Reding
2015-12-14 10:27 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-12-15 15:16 ` Paul Gortmaker
[not found] ` <20151215151624.GB2772-CWA4WttNNZF54TAoqtyWWQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-08 20:31 ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
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