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From: Peter Chen <hzpeterchen@gmail.com>
To: Roger Quadros <rogerq@ti.com>
Cc: Jun Li <jun.li@nxp.com>,
	"stern@rowland.harvard.edu" <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	"balbi@kernel.org" <balbi@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 09/12] usb: gadget: udc: adapt to OTG core
Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 16:39:48 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160504083948.GA22533@shlinux2.ap.freescale.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5729B598.5030902@ti.com>

On Wed, May 04, 2016 at 11:40:56AM +0300, Roger Quadros wrote:
> On 04/05/16 11:03, Jun Li wrote:
> > Hi
> > 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Roger Quadros [mailto:rogerq@ti.com]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 2:37 PM
> >> To: Peter Chen <hzpeterchen@gmail.com>
> >> Cc: Jun Li <jun.li@nxp.com>; stern@rowland.harvard.edu; balbi@kernel.org;
> >> gregkh@linuxfoundation.org; peter.chen@freescale.com;
> >> dan.j.williams@intel.com; jun.li@freescale.com;
> >> mathias.nyman@linux.intel.com; tony@atomide.com; Joao.Pinto@synopsys.com;
> >> abrestic@chromium.org; r.baldyga@samsung.com; linux-usb@vger.kernel.org;
> >> linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; linux-omap@vger.kernel.org
> >> Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 09/12] usb: gadget: udc: adapt to OTG core
> >>
> >> Peter,
> >>
> >> On 04/05/16 06:35, Peter Chen wrote:
> >>> On Tue, May 03, 2016 at 06:44:46PM +0300, Roger Quadros wrote:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> On 03/05/16 10:06, Jun Li wrote:
> >>>>> Hi
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>  /**
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> + * usb_gadget_start - start the usb gadget controller and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> +connect to bus
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> + * @gadget: the gadget device to start
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> + *
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> + * This is external API for use by OTG core.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> + *
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> + * Start the usb device controller and connect to bus
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> +(enable
> >>>>>> pull).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> + */
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> +static int usb_gadget_start(struct usb_gadget *gadget) {
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> +	int ret;
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> +	struct usb_udc *udc = NULL;
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> +
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> +	dev_dbg(&gadget->dev, "%s\n", __func__);
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> +	mutex_lock(&udc_lock);
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> +	list_for_each_entry(udc, &udc_list, list)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> +		if (udc->gadget == gadget)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> +			goto found;
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> +
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> +	dev_err(gadget->dev.parent, "%s: gadget not
> >> registered.\n",
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> +		__func__);
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> +	mutex_unlock(&udc_lock);
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> +	return -EINVAL;
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> +
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> +found:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> +	ret = usb_gadget_udc_start(udc);
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> +	if (ret)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> +		dev_err(&udc->dev, "USB Device Controller didn't
> >>>>>>>> start: %d\n",
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> +			ret);
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> +	else
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> +		usb_udc_connect_control(udc);
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> For drd, it's fine, but for real otg, gadget connect should
> >>>>>>>>>>>> be done by
> >>>>>>>>>>>> loc_conn() instead of gadget start.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> It is upto the OTG state machine to call gadget_start() when
> >>>>>>>>>>> it needs to connect to the bus (i.e. loc_conn()). I see no
> >>>>>>>>>>> point in calling gadget start before.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Do you see any issue in doing so?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> This is what OTG state machine does:
> >>>>>>>>>> case OTG_STATE_B_PERIPHERAL:
> >>>>>>>>>>      otg_chrg_vbus(otg, 0);
> >>>>>>>>>>      otg_loc_sof(otg, 0);
> >>>>>>>>>>      otg_set_protocol(fsm, PROTO_GADGET);
> >>>>>>>>>>      otg_loc_conn(otg, 1);
> >>>>>>>>>>      break;
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On second thoughts, after seen the OTG state machine.
> >>>>>>>> otg_set_protocol(fsm, PROTO_GADGET); is always followed by
> >>>>>>>> otg_loc_conn(otg, 1); And whenever protocol changes to anything
> >>>>>>>> other the PROTO_GADGET, we use otg_loc_conn(otg, 0);
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> So otg_loc_conn seems redundant. Can we just get rid of it?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> usb_gadget_start() implies that gadget controller starts up and
> >>>>>>>> enables pull.
> >>>>>>>> usb_gadget_stop() implies that gadget controller disables pull
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>> stops.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Can you please explain why just these 2 APIs are not sufficient
> >>>>>>>> for full OTG?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Do we want anything to happen between gadget controller
> >>>>>>>> start/stop and pull on/off?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "loc_conn" is a standard output parameter in OTG spec, it deserves
> >>>>>>> a separate api, yes, current implementation of OTG state machine
> >>>>>>> code seems allow you to combine the 2 things into one, but don't
> >>>>>>> do that, because they do not always happen together, e.g. for
> >>>>>>> peripheral only B device (also a part OTG spec: section 7.3), will
> >>>>>>> be fixed in gadget mode, but it will do gadget connect and
> >>>>>>> disconnect in its diff states, so, to make the framework common,
> >> let's keep them separated.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm sorry but I didn't understand your comment about "it will do
> >>>>>> gadget connect and disconnect in its diff states"
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Gadget connect means loc_conn(1).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I am reading the OTG v2.0 specification and loc_conn is always true
> >>>>>> when b_peripheral or a_peripheral is true and false otherwise.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you only talk about these 2 states, yes, loc_conn is ture.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> loc_conn is just an internal state variable and it corresponds to
> >>>>>> our
> >>>>>> gadget_start/stop() state.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It's not an internal variable, there are OTG state machine
> >>>>> parameters tables(table 7-x) in OTG spec which have clear lists
> >>>>> which are "internal variable", which are "input", which are "output"...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Those APIs are driven directly from OTG spec, easily understood so
> >>>>> code reader can know what's those APIs for. For real OTG, I don't
> >>>>> see the benefit if get rid of it.
> >>>>
> >>>> OK, no issues if we don't get rid of it. But I am still in favor of
> >>>> doing a connect in usb_gadget_start(), because
> >>>>
> >>>> 1) If we split connect/disconnect() and usb_gadget_start/stop() then
> >>>> there is additional overhead of keeping track whether connect was
> >>>> called or not during usb_gadget_stop(). Plus we need to take care
> >>>> that users don't call connect/disconnect outside of start/stop. It is
> >> just complicating things.
> >>>>
> >>>> 2) for many controllers there is no difference between run/stop and
> >>>> connect/disconnect. i.e. a single register bit controls both.
> >>>>
> >>>> 3) it fits well with the OTG specification. OTG specification says
> >>>> that loc_conn *variable* must be true *after* the device has signalled
> >> a connect.
> >>>> So OTG state machine can safely set loc_conn variable to true after
> >>>> doing otg_set_protocol(fsm, PROTO_GADGET); and set it to false
> >> otherwise.
> >>>>
> >>>> Note, OTG specification does not say to take any action based on
> >> loc_conn.
> >>>> It is just a connect indicator variable. So we might have to fix this
> >>>> in the OTG state machine.
> >>>>
> >>>> My suggestion is to keep it simple for now. Try the OTG
> >>>> implementation, and later if we find issues then extend it as required.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Just talked with Jun, he is worried if loc_conn != pullup_dp at some
> >>> situations. So, how about only calling start gadget at
> >>> usb_start_gadget,
> >>
> >> Which situations?
> > 
> > When to pull-up DP is decided by application (while vbus is on),
> > not only by driver state machine.
> 
> So when OTG state is B_PERIPHERAL or A_PERIPHERAL we still want DP pull-up
> to be disabled?
> 
> > 
> >>
> >>> and pullup_dp at drd_set_state (see below).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> static void drd_set_state(struct otg_fsm *fsm, enum usb_otg_state
> >>> new_state) {
> >>> 	struct usb_otg *otg = container_of(fsm, struct usb_otg, fsm);
> >>>
> >>> 	if (otg->state == new_state)
> >>> 		return;
> >>>
> >>> 	fsm->state_changed = 1;
> >>> 	dev_dbg(otg->dev, "otg: set state: %s\n",
> >>> 		usb_otg_state_string(new_state));
> >>> 	switch (new_state) {
> >>> 	case OTG_STATE_B_IDLE:
> >>> +		usb_udc_vbus_handler(gadget, false);
> >>
> >> This is redundant, When we switch from PROTO_GADGET to PROTO_UNDEF we do a
> >> usb_gadget_stop(), and a usb_gadget_disconnect() is done there.
> >>
> >>> 		drd_set_protocol(fsm, PROTO_UNDEF);
> >>> 		otg_drv_vbus(otg, 0);
> >>> 		break;
> >>> 	case OTG_STATE_B_PERIPHERAL:
> >>> 		drd_set_protocol(fsm, PROTO_GADGET);
> >>> +		usb_udc_vbus_handler(gadget, true);
> >>
> >> This is redundant as well since usb_gadget_start() is doing a
> >> usb_gadget_connect().
> >>
> >>> 		otg_drv_vbus(otg, 0);
> >>> 		break;
> >>> 	......
> >>> 	};
> >>>
> >>> }
> >>>
> >>> When the OTG FSM is added to this framework, it can keep
> >>> usb_fsm->ops->loc_conn, and using the current FSM.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I have no strong opinions for or against usb_fsm->ops->loc_conn.
> >> Although strictly speaking, we shouldn't take any action based on loc_conn.
> > 
> > Strictly speaking(OTG spec), all you does is for loc_conn, but you think
> > it's start_gadget.
> > 
> >> It is just a state variable indicator.
> > 
> > Nobody check this "indicator".
> > 
> > Of cos, this is not a big deal, you can define the new API as is,
> > do udc_start() + gadget_connect() in one shot, it's up to user to
> > decide if use your usb_otg_start_gadget(), in case of udc_start()
> > followed by gadget_connect() is not wanted, user can/need do udc_start()
> > and something else before do gadget_connect.
> 
> Please don't get me wrong. I want the full OTG state machine to be able
> to use usb_otg_start/stop_gadget().
> 

Sure, but you may change above APIs a little (delete
usb_gadget_connect).

-- 

Best Regards,
Peter Chen

  reply	other threads:[~2016-05-04  8:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-05 14:05 [PATCH v6 00/12] USB OTG/dual-role framework Roger Quadros
2016-04-05 14:05 ` [PATCH v6 01/12] usb: hcd: Initialize hcd->flags to 0 Roger Quadros
2016-04-06  6:09   ` Felipe Balbi
     [not found]     ` <87zit72rqz.fsf-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-06  6:32       ` Roger Quadros
2016-04-07  9:42         ` Peter Chen
2016-04-07 10:40           ` Roger Quadros
     [not found]             ` <57063915.7000700-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-08  1:01               ` Peter Chen
2016-04-08  7:16                 ` Roger Quadros
     [not found]                   ` <57075ACE.1010702-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-08  7:45                     ` Peter Chen
2016-04-18  2:29         ` Peter Chen
2016-04-18 14:11           ` Alan Stern
     [not found]             ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1604181007240.1775-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-19  1:56               ` Peter Chen
2016-04-20  8:15                 ` Roger Quadros
2016-04-20  9:40                   ` Peter Chen
2016-04-05 14:05 ` [PATCH v6 02/12] usb: hcd.h: Add OTG to HCD interface Roger Quadros
2016-04-18  7:41   ` Peter Chen
2016-04-05 14:05 ` [PATCH v6 03/12] usb: otg-fsm: use usb_otg wherever possible Roger Quadros
2016-04-18  7:42   ` Peter Chen
2016-04-05 14:05 ` [PATCH v6 04/12] usb: otg-fsm: move host controller operations into usb_otg->hcd_ops Roger Quadros
     [not found]   ` <1459865117-7032-5-git-send-email-rogerq-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-18  8:00     ` Peter Chen
2016-04-05 14:05 ` [PATCH v6 05/12] usb: gadget.h: Add OTG to gadget interface Roger Quadros
2016-04-05 14:05 ` [PATCH v6 06/12] usb: otg: get rid of CONFIG_USB_OTG_FSM in favour of CONFIG_USB_OTG Roger Quadros
2016-04-18  8:05   ` Peter Chen
     [not found]     ` <20160418080514.GG4477-Fb7DQEYuewWctlrPMvKcciBecyulp+rMXqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-20  8:12       ` Roger Quadros
2016-04-05 14:05 ` [PATCH v6 07/12] usb: otg: add OTG/dual-role core Roger Quadros
2016-04-07  8:52   ` Yoshihiro Shimoda
2016-04-07 11:45     ` Roger Quadros
2016-04-08 11:22       ` Yoshihiro Shimoda
2016-04-11 10:54         ` Roger Quadros
2016-04-14  8:36           ` Yoshihiro Shimoda
2016-04-14 10:59             ` Roger Quadros
     [not found]               ` <570F7827.8050707-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-14 11:15                 ` Yoshihiro Shimoda
     [not found]                   ` <SG2PR06MB09195754753D7FDDAB05D3FDD8970-ESzmfEwOt/zNQ8RBPPB5A20DtJ1/0DrXvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-14 11:32                     ` Roger Quadros
     [not found]                       ` <570F7FB3.2040807-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-15  9:59                         ` Yoshihiro Shimoda
     [not found]                           ` <SG2PR06MB09195F411F6BBE840F7A22D2D8680-ESzmfEwOt/zNQ8RBPPB5A20DtJ1/0DrXvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-15 10:57                             ` Roger Quadros
2016-04-15 10:03                       ` Yoshihiro Shimoda
2016-04-19  9:18                         ` Peter Chen
2016-04-20  5:08                           ` Yoshihiro Shimoda
2016-04-20  7:03                             ` Roger Quadros
     [not found]                               ` <571729C6.5000200-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-22  6:05                                 ` Peter Chen
2016-04-22  1:26                         ` Peter Chen
     [not found]                           ` <20160422012646.GA29299-Fb7DQEYuewWctlrPMvKcciBecyulp+rMXqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-22  3:34                             ` Peter Chen
     [not found]                               ` <20160422033414.GB29299-Fb7DQEYuewWctlrPMvKcciBecyulp+rMXqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-22  5:57                                 ` Yoshihiro Shimoda
     [not found]   ` <1459865117-7032-8-git-send-email-rogerq-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-15  9:25     ` Peter Chen
2016-04-15 11:00       ` Roger Quadros
2016-04-18  2:09         ` Peter Chen
2016-04-20  6:54           ` Roger Quadros
2016-04-20  9:26             ` Peter Chen
2016-04-21  6:52     ` Peter Chen
2016-04-25 14:05       ` Roger Quadros
2016-04-19  8:06   ` Peter Chen
     [not found]     ` <20160419080649.GJ4477-Fb7DQEYuewWctlrPMvKcciBecyulp+rMXqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-20  7:02       ` Roger Quadros
2016-04-20  9:39         ` Peter Chen
2016-04-26  2:07   ` Jun Li
     [not found]     ` <AM4PR04MB213045DC3D1C1D67A7D9AF0689630-WOempg8NbQQzjTQnahXoOs9NdZoXdze2vxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-26  3:47       ` Peter Chen
2016-04-26  5:11         ` Jun Li
     [not found]           ` <AM4PR04MB2130124412E09799A2CB01BF89630-WOempg8NbQQzjTQnahXoOs9NdZoXdze2vxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-26  6:28             ` Peter Chen
2016-04-26  7:00               ` Jun Li
2016-04-26  8:21                 ` Peter Chen
2016-04-27  3:15                   ` Peter Chen
     [not found]                     ` <20160427031509.GA22637-Fb7DQEYuewWctlrPMvKcciBecyulp+rMXqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-27 10:59                       ` Roger Quadros
     [not found]                         ` <57209BA0.6040508-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-28  1:54                           ` Peter Chen
     [not found]                             ` <20160428015409.GA12199-Fb7DQEYuewWctlrPMvKcciBecyulp+rMXqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-28  8:01                               ` Roger Quadros
2016-04-27 11:15     ` Roger Quadros
2016-04-05 14:05 ` [PATCH v6 08/12] usb: hcd: Adapt to OTG core Roger Quadros
2016-04-18  6:29   ` Peter Chen
2016-04-19  8:14     ` Peter Chen
     [not found]       ` <20160419081446.GA15789-Fb7DQEYuewWctlrPMvKcciBecyulp+rMXqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-20  6:47         ` Roger Quadros
     [not found]     ` <20160418062937.GA4477-Fb7DQEYuewWctlrPMvKcciBecyulp+rMXqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-20  6:46       ` Roger Quadros
2016-04-27 10:16   ` Jun Li
2016-04-27 11:00     ` Roger Quadros
2016-04-27 11:11       ` Roger Quadros
2016-04-27 12:49         ` Jun Li
2016-04-27 13:18           ` Jun Li
2016-04-05 14:05 ` [PATCH v6 09/12] usb: gadget: udc: adapt " Roger Quadros
     [not found]   ` <1459865117-7032-10-git-send-email-rogerq-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-18  6:59     ` Peter Chen
     [not found]       ` <20160418065954.GB4477-Fb7DQEYuewWctlrPMvKcciBecyulp+rMXqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-20  6:51         ` Roger Quadros
2016-04-21  6:38   ` Jun Li
2016-04-25 14:04     ` Roger Quadros
2016-04-26  0:07       ` Jun Li
     [not found]         ` <AM4PR04MB2130B0F024C0B275514020DE89630-WOempg8NbQQzjTQnahXoOs9NdZoXdze2vxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-27 11:22           ` Roger Quadros
     [not found]             ` <5720A106.1030702-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-28  9:54               ` Roger Quadros
2016-04-28 10:23                 ` Jun Li
2016-04-28 12:22                   ` Roger Quadros
2016-05-03  7:06                     ` Jun Li
2016-05-03 15:44                       ` Roger Quadros
     [not found]                         ` <5728C76E.9010405-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-04  1:47                           ` Peter Chen
2016-05-04  3:35                         ` Peter Chen
2016-05-04  6:37                           ` Roger Quadros
2016-05-04  7:53                             ` Peter Chen
2016-05-04  8:03                             ` Jun Li
     [not found]                               ` <AM4PR04MB2130076A1E77301D143C9CAE897B0-WOempg8NbQQzjTQnahXoOs9NdZoXdze2vxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-04  8:40                                 ` Roger Quadros
2016-05-04  8:39                                   ` Peter Chen [this message]
2016-04-05 14:05 ` [PATCH v6 10/12] usb: doc: dt-binding: Add otg-controller property Roger Quadros
2016-04-05 14:05 ` [PATCH v6 11/12] usb: core: hub: Notify OTG fsm when A device sets b_hnp_enable Roger Quadros
2016-04-18  7:08   ` Peter Chen
2016-04-27 14:35     ` Roger Quadros
     [not found] ` <1459865117-7032-1-git-send-email-rogerq-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-05 14:05   ` [PATCH v6 12/12] usb: host: xhci-plat: Add otg device to platform data Roger Quadros
     [not found]     ` <1459865117-7032-13-git-send-email-rogerq-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-06  3:23       ` Yoshihiro Shimoda
     [not found]         ` <SG2PR06MB09197D03470D6E6083270343D89F0-ESzmfEwOt/zNQ8RBPPB5A20DtJ1/0DrXvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-06  6:30           ` Roger Quadros

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