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From: Nishanth Menon <nm@ti.com>
To: "Dasgupta, Romit" <romit@ti.com>
Cc: "paul@pwsan.com" <paul@pwsan.com>,
	"khilman@deeprootsystems.com" <khilman@deeprootsystems.com>,
	"linux-omap@vger.kernel.org" <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/10] OPP layer and additional cleanups.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 09:17:08 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B474C74.9020407@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B46DA7F.8080808@ti.com>

Dasgupta, Romit had written, on 01/08/2010 01:10 AM, the following:
>>> Only point I see that may disfavor list based implementation is the fact that we
>>> do not expect high number of OPPs.
>> yes + overhead of CPU cycles walking thru the list Vs indexing off an array.
> True there is overhead but the downside of an array is reallocing (as is the
> case in the previous patch).
lets see this series of list implementation as a seperate series.

>>> Having said this, I have tried to encapsulate the implementation within the OPP
>>> layer. So moving to array/list/any other fancy data structure should be hidden
>>> within OPP.  So the patchset is not only about moving to a list based
>>> implementation. It also to change the semantics of the OPP layer APIs with a
>>> deliberate intent to hide/encapsulate the implementation details.
>> opp.h:
>> +struct omap_opp {
>> +       struct list_head opp_node;
>> +       unsigned int enabled:1;
>> +       unsigned long rate;
>> +       unsigned long uvolt;
>> +};
>> this is exactly what we have been trying to avoid in the first place 
>> (see numerous discussions in the last few months in l-o ML). This allows 
>> for users of opp.h to write their own direct handling mechanisms and we 
>> want to prevent it by forcing callers to use only accessor apis. opp.h 
>> is meant as in include file for all users of opp layer and it's inner 
>> workings/ inner structures should be isolated to opp.c OR a private 
>> header file alone.
> 
> I am not sure what you say is correct. If you see the opp.h file in my patches
> you will find that it has accessor APIs. One does not have to do any
> dereferencing to access any of the struct omap_opp members.
> On the other hand if you look into opp.c you will find a struct opp_list. This
> is the internal details that users do not want to care about and thus I have put
> it in opp.c. OTOH when you define the opp lists (e.g. for 3630, 3430) we do it
> in an array of struct omap_opp. Hence we need to define this in opp.h So I think
> your concern is taken care of.
>>>>> * The OPP layer APIs have been changed. The search APIs have been
>>>>> reduced to one instead of opp_find_{exact|floor|ceil}.
>>>> Could you let us know the benefit of merging this? the split is aligned 
>>>> in the community as such after the very first implementation which had 
>>>> all three merged as a single function, but was split after multiple 
>>>> review comments on readability aspects.
>>> Actually I wanted to minimize the number of interfaces to OPP Layer. What was
>>> shouting at me was the fact that OPP layer at the heart of it is a in memory
>>> data list. So all we need to poke about OPP is to add/delete/enable/disable/search.
>>> for search I thought only a single interface like
>>> 'find_opp_by_freq' is enough. The flags passed to this function should dictate
>>> the mode of the search.
>> yes, I am aware of this(my first series was motivated by the same 
>> though), but the alignment with the community is for:
>> split search into search_exact, search_ceil, search_floor for 
>> readability purposes. I dont deny that this is a data list and the basic 
>> APIs u mentioned are what is enough, but functionally, search is split 
>> as the above instead of taking params to denote the variations in search 
>> techniques - hence the community consensus.
>>
> 
> I wanted to reduce the interfaces. Imagine designing a car with two steerings
> (one for going for driving back and the other for going forward). Instead it is
> better to have one steering with a control to decide if you want to go forward
> or backward.

lets make the list implementation as a seperate series and discuss this. 
I am guessing that there could be wrapper apis which would could 
optimize the implementation while maintaining the overall APIs allowing 
other dependent users to continue. I will reserve my comments till we 
see the series on this.


> 
>> I really dont care if struct omap_opp * or enum is used (they are both 
>> 32bit and have to be dereferenced at the end of the day) to refer to a 
>> voltage domain. In fact using enum might allow us to do cross opp 
>> dependency queries too if such an infrastructure is being introduced, 
>> but that can be done also with struct omap_opp albiet in an obtuse way.
> 
> Slight difference than what you say. When you maintain a pointer to the head of
> your data structure (be it an array or a list) and expect the APIs to pass it
> around, it is different from passing an enum to identify which list you want to
> search. You do not need to store a handle to the initiliazed list anymore.
Enum referencing is better that way, ack. looking forward to seeing a 
seperate series with this.


-- 
Regards,
Nishanth Menon

  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-08 15:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-31 13:29 [PATCH 0/10] OPP layer and additional cleanups Romit Dasgupta
2010-01-04 21:41 ` Nishanth Menon
2010-01-07  8:24   ` Romit Dasgupta
2010-01-07 15:54     ` Nishanth Menon
2010-01-08  7:10       ` Romit Dasgupta
2010-01-08 15:17         ` Nishanth Menon [this message]
2010-01-11  5:06           ` Romit Dasgupta

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