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From: Clemens Ladisch <clemens@ladisch.de>
To: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
	sakari.ailus@maxwell.research.nokia.com,
	broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, lennart@poettering.net,
	linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH v6 03/12] media: Entities, pads and links
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 16:30:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D078D9F.1060700@ladisch.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201012141525.02463.laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>

Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> On Tuesday 14 December 2010 14:31:55 Clemens Ladisch wrote:
> > Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > On Monday 13 December 2010 17:10:51 Clemens Ladisch wrote:
> > >> EXT_SPEAKER also includes headphones; there might be made a case for
> > >> having those as a separate subtype.
> > > 
> > > Shouldn't headphones be represented by an EXT_JACK_ANALOG ?
> > 
> > Headphone jacks are jacks; there are also USB headphones.
> 
> So EXT_SPEAKER are speakers not connected through a jack (USB, internal
> analog, ...) ?

Yes.

When there is jack, the driver often does not know what is connected.

> > >> EXT_BROADCAST represents devices like TV tuners, satellite receivers,
> > >> cable tuners, or radios.
> > > 
> > > There's clearly an overlap with V4L here.
> > 
> > These come from the USB audio spec.  Video devices are indeed likely to
> > be more detailed than just a single audio source. :)
> 
> Does EXT_BROADCAST represent the TV tuner (or satellite receiver, cable tuner,
> radio tuner, ...) itself, or the connection between the tuner and the rest of
> the device ? Most TV tuner are currently handled by V4L2 and would thus turn
> up as V4L2 subdevs (I'm not sure if that's what we want in the long term, but
> it's at least the current situation).

>From the point of view of an audio device, this would be just some audio
source, much like a connector.  We don't need this if there is some
better V4L entitity that the USB audio entity can be mapped to.


Regards,
Clemens

  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-14 15:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-25  2:28 [RFC/PATCH v6 00/12] Media controller (core and V4L2) Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25  2:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 01/12] media: Media device node support Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25  2:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 02/12] media: Media device Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25  9:33   ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-11-25 14:42     ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25  2:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 03/12] media: Entities, pads and links Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25  9:38   ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-11-25 13:41     ` Mark Brown
2010-11-25 15:29       ` [RFC/PATCH v6 03/12] [alsa-devel] " Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 15:35         ` [RFC/PATCH v6 03/12] " Mark Brown
2010-11-25 15:21     ` [RFC/PATCH v6 03/12] [alsa-devel] " Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 15:28       ` [RFC/PATCH v6 03/12] " Mark Brown
2010-11-26  9:10       ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-12-13 16:10         ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-12-14 12:00           ` [alsa-devel] " Laurent Pinchart
2010-12-14 12:40             ` Hans Verkuil
2010-12-14 12:53               ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-12-14 13:49                 ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-12-14 23:50                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-12-21 16:49                     ` [alsa-devel] " Hans Verkuil
2010-12-14 13:31             ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-12-14 13:54               ` Takashi Iwai
2010-12-14 14:25               ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-12-14 15:30                 ` Clemens Ladisch [this message]
2010-12-14 14:51               ` [alsa-devel] " Hans Verkuil
2010-12-14 14:57                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-12-14 14:49           ` [alsa-devel] " Sakari Ailus
2010-11-25 13:36   ` Mark Brown
2010-11-25 15:40     ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 15:49       ` Mark Brown
2010-11-26 14:13         ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-26 14:14           ` Mark Brown
2010-11-28 12:34             ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-28 15:57               ` Hans Verkuil
2010-11-25  2:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 04/12] media: Entity graph traversal Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25  2:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 05/12] media: Reference count and power handling Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 13:49   ` Mark Brown
2010-11-25 15:43     ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 17:49       ` Sakari Ailus
2010-11-25 21:47         ` Mark Brown
2010-11-28 12:33           ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-28 18:25             ` Mark Brown
2010-11-25  2:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 06/12] media: Media device information query Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25  2:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 07/12] media: Entities, pads and links enumeration Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25  2:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 08/12] media: Links setup Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25  2:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 09/12] media: Entity locking and pipeline management Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 13:53   ` Mark Brown
2010-11-25 15:47     ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25  2:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 10/12] v4l: Add a media_device pointer to the v4l2_device structure Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25  2:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 11/12] v4l: Make video_device inherit from media_entity Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 11:38   ` Hans Verkuil
2010-11-25 14:37     ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25  2:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 12/12] v4l: Make v4l2_subdev " Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 14:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 00/12] Media controller (core and V4L2) Mark Brown
2010-11-26 14:07   ` Laurent Pinchart
     [not found] ` <201012031119.36771.laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
     [not found]   ` <201012031306.18520.hverkuil@xs4all.nl>
2010-12-03 13:50     ` [RFC/PATCH v6 03/12] media: Entities, pads and links Laurent Pinchart
2010-12-03 14:54       ` Mark Brown
2010-12-07 17:13         ` Hans Verkuil
2010-12-07 17:55           ` Mark Brown
2010-12-07 18:11             ` Hans Verkuil
2010-12-07 19:03               ` Mark Brown
2010-12-09 12:53                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-12-10 16:35                 ` Sakari Ailus

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