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From: Saravana Kannan <skannan@codeaurora.org>
To: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>
Cc: Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul@pwsan.com>,
	Nicolas Pitre <nicolas.pitre@linaro.org>,
	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Amit Kucheria <amit.kucheria@linaro.org>,
	linaro-dev@lists.linaro.org,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>,
	Jeremy Kerr <jeremy.kerr@canonical.com>,
	Mike Turquette <mturquette@ti.com>,
	Mike Turquette <mturquette@linaro.org>,
	Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
	Deepak Saxena <dsaxena@linaro.org>,
	patches@linaro.org, Rob Herring <rob.herring@calxeda.com>,
	Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Richard Zhao <richard.zhao@linaro.org>,
	Shawn Guo <shawn.guo@freescale.com>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@stericsson.com>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>l
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 1/3] Documentation: common clk API
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 12:41:41 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F6A2EF5.3010008@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120321193304.GO9859@atomide.com>

On 03/21/2012 12:33 PM, Tony Lindgren wrote:
> * Mark Brown<broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>  [120321 12:11]:
>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:38:58AM -0700, Saravana Kannan wrote:
>>
>>>> So it would be interesting to know more about why you (or anyone else)
>>>> perceive that the Kconfig changes would be harmful.
>>
>>> But the enthusiasm of the clock driver developers doesn't
>>> necessarily translate to users of the clock APIs (other driver
>>> devs). My worry with marking it as experimental in Kconfig and to a
>>> certain extent in the documentation is that it will discourage the
>>> driver devs from switching to the new APIs. If no one is using the
>>> new APIs, then platforms can't switch to the common clock framework
>>
>> These aren't new APIs, the clock API has been around since forever.

I disagree. When I say clock API, I mean the actual functions and their 
semantics. Not the existence of a header file.

The meaning of clk_enable/disable has been changed and they won't work 
without calling clk_prepare/unprepare. So, these are definitely new 
APIs. If it weren't new APIs, then none of the general drivers would 
need to change.

>> For driver authors working on anything that isn't platform specific the
>> issue has been that it's not implemented at all on the overwhelming
>> majority of architectures and those that do all have their own random
>> implementations with their own random quirks and with no ability for
>> anything except the platform to even try to do incredibly basic stuff
>> like register a new clock.
>>
>> Simply having something, anything, in place even if it's going to churn
>> is a massive step forward here for people working with clocks.
>
> Right, and now at least the people reading this thread are pretty
> aware of the yet unsolved issues with clock fwk api :)

:-) Shhh... not so loud!

-Saravana


-- 
Sent by an employee of the Qualcomm Innovation Center, Inc.
The Qualcomm Innovation Center, Inc. is a member of the Code Aurora Forum.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-21 19:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1331878280-2758-1-git-send-email-mturquette@linaro.org>
     [not found] ` <CAP245DXV5oE+-y+PQCcSM016h-J+UgTi1efmdrcyeQge4k1Cfw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]   ` <201203161218.05125.arnd.bergmann@linaro.org>
     [not found]     ` <201203162057.58706.arnd@arndb.de>
2012-03-16 22:21       ` [PATCH v7 1/3] Documentation: common clk API Paul Walmsley
2012-03-16 22:33         ` Turquette, Mike
     [not found]           ` <CAJOA=zPmy7Dwzw8EOCW_+cvy2Dv=w0TPUq7Zg_s=Y0rs+v+u2w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-17  9:05             ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-17 18:02               ` Turquette, Mike
     [not found]                 ` <CAJOA=zNVSWR6xZEfx4hioB-Q7M6PsrP9gdvJc1t+YN=QVE=83w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-17 18:33                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-17 20:29                   ` Sascha Hauer
     [not found]                     ` <20120317202931.GN3852-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-17 21:13                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-20 23:40               ` Paul Walmsley
2012-03-21  8:59                 ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]         ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1203161509470.4395-rwI8Ez+7Ko+d5PgPZx9QOdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-16 23:47           ` Sascha Hauer
     [not found]             ` <20120316234706.GJ3852-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-17  0:54               ` Rob Herring
2012-03-17  3:38                 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 23:31             ` Paul Walmsley
2012-03-21  3:15               ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-03-21  3:26                 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-21  7:44                   ` Paul Walmsley
     [not found]                     ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1203210130520.30543-rwI8Ez+7Ko+d5PgPZx9QOdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-21  9:10                       ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-21 18:38                     ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-21 19:07                       ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                         ` <20120321190741.GL3226-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-21 19:33                           ` Tony Lindgren
2012-03-21 19:41                             ` Saravana Kannan [this message]
     [not found]                               ` <4F6A2EF5.3010008-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-21 19:56                                 ` Mark Brown
2012-03-21 20:04                                   ` Saravana Kannan
     [not found]                                     ` <4F6A3446.9020809-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-21 20:10                                       ` Mark Brown
2012-03-22  0:42                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-21  7:30                 ` Paul Walmsley
     [not found]                   ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1203210018260.30543-rwI8Ez+7Ko+d5PgPZx9QOdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-21 13:23                     ` Nicolas Pitre

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