From: Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>
To: Igor Grinberg <grinberg@compulab.co.il>
Cc: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>,
linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, Archit Taneja <archit@ti.com>,
Mike Rapoport <mike@compulab.co.il>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/28] ARM: OMAP: CM-T35: Kconfig option for the display options
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 11:07:38 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <515A91CA.7060801@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5157FF21.9000702@compulab.co.il>
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On 2013-03-31 12:17, Igor Grinberg wrote:
>
>
> On 03/28/13 19:02, Tomi Valkeinen wrote:
>> On 2013-03-28 18:09, Igor Grinberg wrote:
>>> On 03/28/13 14:49, Tomi Valkeinen wrote:
>>>> Boards with multiple display options for the same video bus have all the
>>>> possible linux display devices present at the same time. Only one of
>>>> those devices should be used at a time, as the video bus cannot be
>>>> shared.
>>>
>>> Yes, only one can be used at a time, but you can switch at runtime...
>
>> Yep. But the panel drivers need to know about this, and they cannot do
>> more or less anything in the driver probe function, which I think should
>> be the place to reserve resources and do initialization. With the
>> current model that would lead to multiple drivers trying to acquire the
>> same resources.
>
> Yep, this is a problem, but it only means that probably
> the platform device framework is not suitable for this.
>
> What about having some kind of display manager which will have a private
> list of registered devices and will instantiate only those that are marked
> active?
> This also might be useful with DT.
We can't have a generic manager that handles instantiating the devices,
as we don't know what device they are. They could be platform devices,
i2c, anything. There could even be a single device that creates multiple
displays.
>>>> This model is hacky, and will be changed in the forthcoming DSS patches
>>>> to a model where only one display device can be present on a single
>>>> video bus.
>>>
>>> What do you mean by "present"?
>>> Is it active? or registered? or compiled in?
>
>> I mean that only one device can be registered. Well, nothing strictly
>> prevents having multiple devices registered, but if the devices have
>> matching drivers, the drivers would acquire the same resources. Possibly
>> the same gpios, but at least the same video bus.
>
> Well, I think, we should follow/extend the already existing EDID concept...
> Instantiate a display device only when one has been "plugged in".
> By "plugged in" I mean enabled - made active.
This brings the complication that we need a way to make the display
active even if the display device doesn't exist. So we need to know
about the display even if it's not there.
>>>> This patch creates Kconfig options to select which of the display
>>>> devices is present on the board. While this model is also somewhat
>>>> hacky, and prevents us from using a single kernel image for all the
>>>> display options, it allows us to make the DSS driver changes for DT
>>>> adaptation. And with DT, the information about display devices can be
>>>> passed from the bootloader, solving the mess.
>>>
>>> Hmmm, the fact that we cannot use the same binary for multiple displays...
>>> This does not sound right and good at all...
>>> While we try to move to support multiple platforms in the same binary, we
>>> cannot support multiple displays? I agree that the multiplatform stuff is
>>> not really related, but you know what I mean...
>
>> Yes, I quite agree that this sucks =). There are a few reasons I chose
>> to try this approach:
>
>> - The whole multi-display feature is hacky
>
>> - DT support for DSS has been in development too long time. We really
>> need it, preferably yesterday. This change helps getting DT support ready.
>
> Yes, but I don't think this should involve removing the existing
> functionality..
> Let me exaggerate a bit: this is like removing ARM support from mainline,
> so it will make less noise and headache to Linus...
That is exaggerating quite a bit ;). But yes, I agree that we should not
remove the features. I just couldn't find a manageable way to have them
while still moving forward to DT and CDF.
Tomi
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Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-03-28 12:48 [PATCH 00/28] OMAP: DSS related board file changes Tomi Valkeinen
2013-03-28 12:48 ` [PATCH 01/28] ARM: OMAP: Remove unnecessary platform callbacks for VENC devices Tomi Valkeinen
2013-03-28 15:18 ` Igor Grinberg
2013-03-28 12:48 ` [PATCH 02/28] ARM: OMAP: don't use reset_gpio from omap4_panda_dvi_device Tomi Valkeinen
2013-03-28 12:48 ` [PATCH 03/28] ARM: OMAP: Overo: Kconfig option for the display options Tomi Valkeinen
2013-03-28 12:48 ` [PATCH 04/28] ARM: OMAP: 3430SDP: " Tomi Valkeinen
2013-03-28 12:48 ` [PATCH 05/28] ARM: OMAP: 4430SDP: " Tomi Valkeinen
2013-03-28 12:49 ` [PATCH 06/28] ARM: OMAP: DEVKIT8000: " Tomi Valkeinen
2013-03-28 12:49 ` [PATCH 07/28] ARM: OMAP: OMAP3EVM: " Tomi Valkeinen
2013-03-28 12:49 ` [PATCH 08/28] ARM: OMAP: CM-T35: " Tomi Valkeinen
2013-03-28 16:09 ` Igor Grinberg
2013-03-28 16:53 ` Tony Lindgren
2013-03-28 17:12 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-03-28 21:28 ` Tony Lindgren
2013-03-29 4:27 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-03-29 15:47 ` Tony Lindgren
2013-03-28 17:02 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-03-31 9:17 ` Igor Grinberg
2013-04-02 8:07 ` Tomi Valkeinen [this message]
2013-04-02 11:20 ` Igor Grinberg
2013-03-28 12:49 ` [PATCH 09/28] ARM: OMAP: AM3517EVM: " Tomi Valkeinen
2013-03-28 12:49 ` [PATCH 10/28] ARM: OMAP: Panda: use new TFP410 platform driver Tomi Valkeinen
2013-03-28 12:49 ` [PATCH 11/28] ARM: OMAP: Panda & SDP: use new HDMI driver Tomi Valkeinen
2013-03-28 12:49 ` [PATCH 12/28] ARM: OMAP: 4430SDP: use new Taal driver Tomi Valkeinen
2013-03-28 12:49 ` [PATCH 13/28] ARM: OMAP: Beagle: use new TFP410 platform driver Tomi Valkeinen
2013-03-28 12:52 ` Peter Meerwald
2013-03-28 12:49 ` [PATCH 14/28] ARM: OMAP: Stalker: " Tomi Valkeinen
2013-03-28 12:49 ` [PATCH 15/28] ARM: OMAP: OMAP3EVM: " Tomi Valkeinen
2013-03-28 12:49 ` [PATCH 16/28] ARM: OMAP: IGEP0020: " Tomi Valkeinen
2013-03-28 12:49 ` [PATCH 17/28] ARM: OMAP: Devkit8000: " Tomi Valkeinen
2013-03-28 12:49 ` [PATCH 18/28] ARM: OMAP: CM-T35: " Tomi Valkeinen
2013-03-28 12:49 ` [PATCH 19/28] ARM: OMAP: AM3517EVM: " Tomi Valkeinen
2013-03-28 12:49 ` [PATCH 20/28] ARM: OMAP: 3430SDP: " Tomi Valkeinen
2013-03-28 12:49 ` [PATCH 21/28] ARM: OMAP: Overo: " Tomi Valkeinen
2013-03-28 12:49 ` [PATCH 22/28] ARM: OMAP: Overo: use new generic-dpi-panel " Tomi Valkeinen
2013-03-28 12:49 ` [PATCH 23/28] ARM: OMAP: LDP: " Tomi Valkeinen
2013-03-28 12:49 ` [PATCH 24/28] ARM: OMAP: H4: " Tomi Valkeinen
2013-03-28 12:49 ` [PATCH 25/28] ARM: OMAP: Devkit8000: " Tomi Valkeinen
2013-03-28 12:49 ` [PATCH 26/28] ARM: OMAP: CM-T35: " Tomi Valkeinen
2013-03-28 12:49 ` [PATCH 27/28] ARM: OMAP: AM3517EVM: " Tomi Valkeinen
2013-03-28 12:49 ` [PATCH 28/28] ARM: OMAP: 2430SDP: " Tomi Valkeinen
2013-03-28 15:31 ` [PATCH 00/28] OMAP: DSS related board file changes Igor Grinberg
2013-03-28 16:48 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-03-28 16:57 ` Tony Lindgren
2013-03-31 8:41 ` Igor Grinberg
2013-03-31 8:39 ` Igor Grinberg
2013-03-31 15:03 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-04-02 8:01 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-04-02 8:40 ` Igor Grinberg
2013-04-03 9:36 ` Tomi Valkeinen
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